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UK Elections

Discussion in 'European Politics' started by Laika, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. ratiocinator

    ratiocinator Lightly seared on the reality grill.

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    Incorrect and baseless assertion. You seem to be missing the point. I doesn't matter what issues people voted on, a party can still get an unassailable majority when most people voted for other parties.

    Assertion.

    Vote Leave campaign broke electoral law

    Assertion.
     
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    Maajid understands -

     
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    But these are desperate times for Labour MPs - unsurprising that some of them would, at this point, resort to emotionally charged and politically hysterical outbursts - the real question is why would somebody talk like that "all along"?
     
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    If you still don’t know the answer to that, I can’t help you.
     
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    Nope. You are using a point you can not provide evidence for as per my example.



    Wrong. You provided no evidence as per my example.





    So?



    Wrong as per my example
     
  6. ratiocinator

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    You seem to have completely forgotten what the conversation is about. I made two distinct points, one about the voting system allowing a minority of people to elect a government with a large majority (regardless of why people voted), and the other about the country now being taken in a direction the majority do not want. I also said that the electoral system, lies, and broken electoral law were some of the reasons.

    The first is a simple fact, the second I have provided evidence for. You keep on wittering on about my assuming what issue(s) people voted on, which is only relevant to the second point and then it formed only part of the evidence (in that there was a correlation) that together support the claim.

    You asked for a citation. More evidence that you're not paying attention...
     
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    You are conflating political parties with the system. You are assuming a direction without evidence.

    Nope. Sloppy logic and post hoc rationalization for that logic

    Which is still an assumption.



    For the violation you claimed.

    Wrong.
     
  8. ratiocinator

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    What system and in what way?

    So are you now going to argue that the Johnson government isn't going to take us out of the EU?

    In what way and about what?

    Drivel. I have given you the evidence.

    You're obviously not serious about debating this properly, so have a nice life....
     
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    I remember three months ago when former Labour voters said they didn't believe the party's plans to spend £500bn were affordable, so they voted for the Tories instead.
    Today the Tories announced £600bn of capital spending & billions more for current spending.

    Luckily the Tories have a Magic Money Tree that is not available to Labour
     
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    Good point!

    But Cummings has his hand up Sunak's ar5e, that's fairly evident.
     
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