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UFO/ET phenomenon

Discussion in 'Paranormal Activities' started by ResistETIntervention, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. ResistETIntervention

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    Have you sighted a UFO?

    Have you had or do you know of anyone who has had any Close Encounter of the first kind, second kind, or even third kind?
     
  2. JayaBholenath

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    Yes hello ?
     
  3. Quintessence

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    Have I seen an object in the sky that I couldn't identify (thus, by definition, an "unidentified flying object")? Sure. Do I think it had anything to do with alien visitors from space? Not even a little.
     
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  5. ResistETIntervention

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    Could you describe what you'd seen?



    I have sighted five UFOs:
    • three (fuchsia, blue, and golden) huge lights on the positions of vertices of a triangle; they were completely stationary for at least fifteen minutes.
    • a brilliant light which reached a superluminal speed from a completely stationary position in the sky.
    • a brilliant light which "jumped" from one place to another in the sky, and then disappeared.
    • a dark spherical object with a "band" in the equatorial region with dots on the band
    • a thick brilliant beam of light travelling at a very higih speed
    Yes, they were "unidentified flying or stationary objects" in the sky. Such objects were sighted by many millions of people globally. One of my neighbors has sighted a huge extraterrestrial spaceship fly right above our building. Air force officers all over the world have sighted extraterrestrial spaceships up close within yards, which would hover over or remain stationary over nuclear weapon storages for hours at a time.
     
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  7. Riverwolf

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    After which, what did they do? I will point out that any three lights in the sky can be construed as being on the vertices of a triangle.



    "Superluminal"? That is, from zero to faster than light? That would have had the effect of just vanishing.


    Could you be more specific?





    Sounds like a meteor.



    Was it day or night?




    Sounds like another meteor.
     
  8. Quintessence

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    None of the above. I was with a friend at the time, and we saw the exact same thing. After we saw it, we were silent for a really long time and my friend started interrogating me about what that could possibly be because she knows I'm a science-type and was more knowledgeable than she was. I had no idea. It was basically a very bright point of light in the night sky that could change trajectory in ways that are impossible for any kind of declassified aircraft (or a meteor or satellite). Think zig-zagging. It also grew brighter and dimmer, until eventually fading away completely. I couldn't explain it to her. I wasn't going to say "OMFG it's aliens!" either, but it was, by definition, an "unidentified flying object."

    The only thing I can think of now in hindsight is ball lightning, but I don't know much about the phenomena, as no one really does. :shrug:
     
  9. ResistETIntervention

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    While raising awareness on the streets in my town, many people have related their experiences of sighting UFOs to me. One of them even told me that his girlfriend has been abducted by extraterrestrial beings multiple times. Some of the people I spoke to have sighted UFOs that can maneuver in the air exactly as described by you.

    Given your experience of sighting, what do you think about the UFO/ET phenomenon? Have you attempted to find out more about it?
     
  10. ResistETIntervention

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    Are those stars you seem to refer to have blue, fuchsia, and golden colors?
    These lights were much larger than any of the stars in the sky.
    I went home afterwards, so I wouldn't know what they did afterwards. Years later, I found out that the same type of UFO was sighted by people in various places.

    That’s correct. There was a very brilliant spot of light in the sky on a very clear day. It was stationary when I looked at it, but then it sped up leaving a white trail of light. Then it vanished all of a sudden, when it reached a superluminal speed. It achieved this velocity within a second or two from a stationary position.

    Since when does a meteor “jump” from one place to another and then vanish away from the atmosphere? Do meteors have minds of their own? When meteors enter our atmosphere, they fall onto the ground due to gravity. They do not “jump” around in the air, nor do they “decide” to move out of the atmosphere.

    The spherical object I saw was within a few yards, certainly close enough for me to detect some of its features. This was sighted at dusk and in a mountain. It is purported that extraterrestrials hide their spaceships in mountains or big bodies of water such as oceans or lakes.

    If this thick beam of light travelling at such high speed were a meteor, it would have made a huge dent on the mountain because I sighted this one also in its proximity. This was sighted, in fact, on the same day I sighted the spherical object with an equatorial band, up in the mountain. If it made a huge dent, it would have made a headline in the news the next day, if not earlier. I heard no collision, nor any news of meteors striking the mountain. According to your logic, there must have been millions of meteors striking the earth. How odd that you don’t hear of any news about meteors as often?

    You may doubt my sighting UFOs as extraterrestrial spaceships at your risk, for there is a very grave consequence to this phenomenon. However, at least, it seems from your lack of questions on the extraterrestrial spaceships sighted up close within a few yards by air force officers, you seem to regard their sightings as more valid. So now what do you think of the UFO/ET phenomenon?

    Do not let your preference be the guide of your judgment. I, too, prefer that the UFO/ET phenomenon were not real, and my mind did want to give it explanations of what I saw in a way that denies the phenomenon. However, having sighted UFOs (which could not possibly be weather phenomena, weather balloons, meteors, air planes, helicopters, or birds) on multiple occasions, knowing that millions (yes, millions) of people around the globe have sighted various UFOs as well as extraterrestrial spaceships up close, and knowing of some people who have been abducted by extraterrestrial beings, I have no choice but to face the reality with as much objectivity as I can bring into my perspective.

    These millions of people who sighted UFOs include former presidents Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, and Richard Nixon, as well as many air force officers all around the world including L. Gordon Cooper, and entertainers such as Will Smith, Jackie Gleason, John Lennon, etc. There is a heap of evidence if you would care to look into it, rather than denying the phenomenon without any knowledge of other people’s experiences. It would be utterly injudicious to deny the phenomenon and choose to remain ignorant while people are being abducted against their will by the extraterrestrial beings present in our world currently.
     
  11. ResistETIntervention

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    Why couldn’t you say “OMG it’s aliens!”? If that is the case, then it is the case, and we must deal with it accordingly. I have no idea what “ball lightning” is. It seems that scientists are coming up with various “new” weather or atmospheric phenomena to explain away the extraterrestrial spaceships whose presence in our world they do not understand or wish to accept.

    We’re used to regarding ourselves as very intelligent and preeminent on our planet and perhaps even in the universe – because scientists could not detect any life forms with their “advanced” devices anywhere in the galaxy, nor could they detect any communication signal with radio waves, correct?

    We live at a time when we must face and reconsider many things in the light of UFO/ET phenomenon: scientific theories that have been upheld, religious beliefs, our anthropocentric perspective, etc. Scientific theories seem to indicate that “superluminal speed” is impossible to achieve, yet, such velocities obtained by UFOs were witnessed by laymen around the globe. Religious beliefs seem to indicate that humanity is the only intelligent beings in the universe; yet, such beliefs must be rejected in the presence of extraterrestrial beings that are encountered by their quite unfortunate abductees. Humanity is not the center of the universe, but just another race struggling to survive in the physical universe replete with many other races ranging in every conceivable form, at every conceivable stage of evolution, and with every conceivable level of technological advancements.

    There is a very grave consequence to this phenomenon that very few people are aware of. These extraterrestrial beings are here with specific goals to achieve. Should they succeed in achieving their goals, humanity will lose its sovereignty in this solar system, and lose its freedom and self-determination.

    You cannot just sweep this phenomenon under the rug and hope that it will go away or won't affect you or others.
     
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  12. Riverwolf

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    I didn't say they were stars. I simply asked what they did next, and pointing out a phenomenon of the human mind.

    I didn't see them, so I'm not going to say what they were.

    Though I will point out that changes in atmospheric composition can mess with colors.

    How do you know it reached any speed?

    Meteors don't fall to the ground;
    those are meteorites. Meteors fly across the sky in a brilliant streak of light. Have you ever watched a meteor shower?

    Can you give me a size estimate?

    See above correction about terminology and meteor behavior.

    Besides, even though it's not known exactly how many meteorites strike the earth each year, it's estimated to be quite high, though different websites give different numbers. Based on very brief internet research, anywhere from 500 to 100,000 objects strike earth each year.

    Why would they be more valid, and where did I give the impression that I thought they would be?

    How much do you know about weather phenomena?

    I'm aware of their experiences, and they're all equally valid as eyewitness testimony: not very.

    Remember what the "U" stands for. It's an UNIDENTIFIED flying object; that is, you don't know what it is. Since you don't know what it is, well, you don't know what it is. It could be anything. Sure, it might be aliens, but there's no physical evidence of this. Eyewitness testimony is not evidence, and nowadays, photography and videos aren't evidence, either, since those can easily be forged.

    I've seen the documentaries, the testimonies, etc. They don't impress me beyond their sheer entertainment value (especially Ancient Aliens; that show's a laugh riot).

    I don't say that aliens aren't there. I don't say that the abduction phenomena isn't genuine. I'm simply asking you to elaborate on your experiences.

    Besides, how do you know they're extraterrestrials? Why can't they be native to this planet as well, but from the deep ocean? Or from within the earth? Or the distant past or future?
     
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  13. ResistETIntervention

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    Could you then clarify what you meant by the statement “any three lights in the sky can be construed as being on the vertices of a triangle”? What lights could you have meant?


    In the physical universe, for an object to get from one place to another requires speed. The UFO was stationary in one place, and then left a brilliant trail of light apparently moving to another location. Then, instead of continuing to leave a trail of light or reappearing in another spot in a stationary position, it vanished all of a sudden.


    I have never watched a meteor shower in my life. This object or beam of light you’d like to regard as a “meteor” or “meteorite” was streaking quite close to the ground within the mountain pointing towards the ground. Were it a meteor, then as it is light emitted from a heated-up meteorite, it would also “fall” on the ground at the impact of the meteor on the ground, from which meteor is emitted. It wouldn't stop in midair and then leave the atmosphere at a superluminal speed.

    No, I couldn’t because I’d have to make an accurate enough guess at the distance between the object and me. I’d just be guessing.

    See my comments above regarding your correction.

    If not, perhaps you have some questions about what they sighted? What the air force officers saw were not “unidentified flying objects,” but extraterrestrial spaceships of various sizes and shapes which they witnessed within a few yards of them. These spaceships often hovered around nuclear weapon storages, pointing some sort of light beam towards the storages while remaining stationary for hours at a time. Some pilots have sighted UFOs while navigating their airplanes in the sky. When they came to conclusions that they were not man-made vehicles, they attempted to launch a missile at the UFO. However, “the beings” navigating the UFOs deactivated the launch switch/button…from their spaceships. The pilots could not launch any missiles. Would you still regard the phenomenon as merely “unidentified” objects flying around?


    I’m not a meteorologist, so I don’t know that much about weather phenomena. However, I do know enough not to allow them to fool me into believing that what I sighted were weather phenomena, atmospheric phenomena, weather balloons, meteors, meteorites, airplanes, helicopters, or birds.

    They may seem simply “unidentified flying objects” or “unidentified stationary objects” to the people who have not sighted them up close or been abducted by extraterrestrials.


    Yes, it’s a very good thing that you’re attempting to identify these incidences; so many people choose to remain ignorant by ignoring the phenomenon completely. It is true that photographs and videos can easily be manipulated or forged. Yet, if you choose to ignore eyewitness’ testimonies or abductees’ testimonies as non-evidence, then I don’t know what else would convince you, given the limitations of human technology and abilities to investigate the phenomenon to obtain irrefutable conclusions, unless you get abducted by extraterrestrials while you remain conscious and are conveniently equipped with a camcorder or camera. I certainly wouldn’t want you or any human being to get abducted by extraterrestrial beings, so you’ll just have to take other people’s experiences as evidence.

    Sightings of UFOs have been mounting around the globe for the past six decades. Yet, how strange is it that people continue to deny them or regard them as simply “unidentified” and go about their daily business as if the phenomenon doesn’t matter at all?

    Nothing would convince you more than the testimonies of abductees, on what sinister intentions these extraterrestrials have for humanity. May I suggest the book “Taken” by Karla Turner? I believe you can obtain a free copy online. It is a collection of testimonies by abductees. Turner herself was an abductee and had researched and delved into the abduction phenomena, interviewing many abductees. When she became an influential figure in the UFO/ET phenomenon, she died of a “fast-acting” unusual cancer after her work was threatened.

    If you want to find out about physical evidence of the presence of extraterrestrial beings in our world, you might want to try the book “The Aliens and the Scalpel” written by Dr. Roger Leir, a physician who has been removing alien implants from abductees’ bodies. He sent the implants he extracted to independent laboratories without informing them of where or how he obtained them. The results of the analyses at the labs confirmed that the implants are of extraterrestrial nature:

    While those documentaries you watched may be of entertainment value and unlikely to represent the reality as it truly exists, I assure you I’m not here to impress you in any ways. I’d be interested to find out what your thoughts were after the reading those two books I mentioned above.
     
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  14. ResistETIntervention

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    While your imaginations could be a background for an interesting fiction or an exciting movie, these aliens are extraterrestrials.


    Humanity has, indeed, been visited intermittently by extraterrestrials in the past for millennia - this can be verified from paintings and cave drawings. This world is truly a Garden of Eden with such immense biodiversity, abundant with natural resources, and relatively mild climate. Our world is a jewel in the stark barren universe, which other races covet for themselves. There are very few worlds such as ours in the galaxy. There are many races in the universe, which had to evolve in much harsher conditions.

    The extraterrestrials are here to acquire resources of this planet, but they cannot breathe earth’s atmosphere, the biohazard (germs) is of tremendous risk to them having evolved in sterile environments, and there are other limitations which prevent them from simply attacking the world outright using military force to obtain whatever they want. They did not originate from the Earth; they began gathering around the Earth and our solar system at the advent of the nuclear bomb – Hiroshima incidence in 1945. Around 1948 is when UFO incidences and abduction cases really began globally and to a great extent, as opposed to intermittently throughout human history.

    They feared humanity might actually destroy this beautiful world with its warlike tendencies and they really wanted to preserve the world for themselves. This would demonstrate the reasons that extraterrestrial beings in their spaceships hovered over nuclear weapon storages and pointing light beams down, as if to warn humanity that it is dangerous. Some optimistic air force officers regarded their action as benign and their intentions as warning humanity of the danger of the nuclear weapons, as if they were some benevolent races that care about the well-being of humanity. Yet, abduction phenomenon indicates otherwise.

    There is much to learn about the phenomenon, the ETs’ activities in this world, their goals, and about life in the universe.
     
  15. Quintessence

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    Resist, if you want to believe little green/grey humanoids are visiting Earth, more power to you. Don't ask me to. Not my kind of mythos, doubly so when taken as logos.

    Besides, as a determinist, I don't for one second believe humans have freedom and self-determination in the first place. Nor do I think we have sovereignty over Gaea, much less the solar system.
     
  16. Riverwolf

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    I ask again, how do you know?
     
  17. Riverwolf

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    The human mind is great at seeing patterns where there are none.

    Find three points of light in the sky, whether stars, satellites, planes, whatever. They can all be connected as if on a triangle.

    That doesn't mean it went anywhere; that just means it stopped giving off light.

    Then start next time one comes around, because what you're describing still sounds like a meteor. If not, watch some clips on youtube as to what meteors look like.

    Again, meteors don't fall to the ground, and even if they do, they're not really going to make news.

    Then nobody can say what it was.

    Yup, because their eyewitness testimony is no better than anyone else's. Just because you're in the military doesn't mean your mind is less susceptible to trickery than civies.

    And yet those who are even passingly knowledgeable about the various kinds of weather phenomena aren't fooled into thinking that such things are extraterrestrial spacecraft.

    And I can't do that.

    How do they know they're of extraterrestrial origin?

    Probably not much different.

    In fact, since you directed me at something, allow me to direct you to something:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSJElZwEI8o
     
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  18. dyanaprajna2011

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    Yes, I've had several experiences with objects/lights in the sky I couldn't identify.
     
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    Personally, no.

    My sister-in-law had a close encounter with what she described as a UFO. She was in her car with her young daughter when she said a very small "craft" hoovered above the highway in front of her then made a series of strange maneuvers. Finally, it flew right at her car but then glided slightly above and over it. It made no sounds at all, but she said she was terrified.

    A few weeks later two "government" representatives came an interviewed her regarding her encounter. They offered no explanation as to what she saw, and she never saw or heard from the men again.

    This was back in the early 1960s.
     
  20. Riverwolf

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    Oh, and if you want further proof that small impacts don't really get a whole lot of coverage, well, late last year, a small meteor crashed into the hills of my town.

    I only just now learned about it.

    It did get a bit of coverage, but not a whole lot.
     
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