Types of Ignorance in Catholic Thought

[wellwisher]

It's rare to see someone arguing for social darwinim today. I guess it takes someone with a fantasist view of violence and strength and frankly a fetishist for misery. I also love the"tools and proesthetic are unnatural" idiocy. You have an animal with a large brain capable of insight and abstract thinking, but also limbs capable of fine motricity (and for which that animal has been naturally selected), but let's consider all the things those very natural capacity can make out of resources found in nature, let's completely ignore the social structure and organisation they can produce and support and call half of nature unnatural just to maintain a completely false and wrongheaded view.

You missed the point. Say you have two children. One has a mother or matter, providing and doing everything for him. The other child has to do most things on their own. As long as the first child's mother can follow him through life, he can stay in a self confidence and perpetual pampering. But he has no real skills since his maternal prosthesis does it for him. In the second case, that child is more self sufficient for the rest of his life. He has selective advantage in the bigger picture of things. He is not a greenhouse orchid whose beauty is conditional on others, which may not last.

This orchid state of materialism is not stable in the long term, if everyone wants this. If all you needed to be happy, and out going, was money and a servant, and everyone wanted this, it implodes, since there will be no servants, since they also want this. We will need to bully half the people, so they can provide this for the other half.This is another pitfall.

I am not saying materialism is not beneficial in terms of improving the standard of living. This frees up time and energy, so one can practice being more self sufficient; hobbies.

Most crime is about the fastest way to obtain money and/or material things, so one can use this as the prosthesis, for subjective cultural success. The proof of this is the singer,who has top hits and lots of money. Suddenly, the materialist formula make him or her an expert is the topics of the day. That is an illusion. He may not have the inner worth in proportion to the outer image and inflated ego.

There are two ways to develop the brain and the intellect. We can input data from the outside through our sensory systems. This is how science and materialism works. We can use this external technique to build our ego by having others compliment us with audio output and feedback.

The other way is from the inside out. The creative person gets inspiration from within. The New Testament mentions the inner man growing and the inner man dying. This was Jesus's idea. All the material goodies of culture, that once did not exist; cell phone, came from the inside of someone. Once it is outside the materialist can enjoy it. Or they can become ruled by it, if their self esteem and intellect becomes too dependent on it.

 

[epronovost]

You missed the point. Say you have two children. One has a mother or matter, providing and doing everything for him. The other child has to do most things on their own. As long as the first child's mother can follow him through life, he can stay in a self confidence and perpetual pampering. But he has no real skills since his maternal prosthesis does it for him. In the second case, that child is more self sufficient for the rest of his life. He has selective advantage in the bigger picture of things. He is not a greenhouse orchid whose beauty is conditional on others, which may not last.

This is of course completely true, but a false comparison between modern and ancient societies though.

I am not saying materialism is not beneficial in terms of improving the standard of living. This frees up time and energy, so one can practice being more self sufficient; hobbies.

You should be aware that people work more since the industrial revolution than ever before. We simply don't work in the same domains and on the same tasks.

Most crime is about the fastest way to obtain money and/or material things, so one can use this as the prosthesis, for subjective cultural success.

That hypothesis isn't supported by research on criminal behavior and enterprise. Crime as a way to acquire money, is most often a result of desperation after being cut-off from other avenues. Criminals are also significantly poorer than the average person

There are two ways to develop the brain and the intellect. We can input data from the outside through our sensory systems. This is how science and materialism works. We can use this external technique to build our ego by having others compliment us with audio output and feedback.

The other way is from the inside out. The creative person gets inspiration from within. The New Testament mentions the inner man growing and the inner man dying. This was Jesus's idea. All the material goodies of culture, that once did not exist; cell phone, came from the inside of someone. Once it is outside the materialist can enjoy it. Or they can become ruled by it, if their self esteem and intellect becomes too dependent on it.

This is a severe misunderstading and missrepresentation of materialism as a philosophy or of secular humanism as an ethical system.

 

[rational experiences]

You missed the point. Say you have two children. One has a mother or matter, providing and doing everything for him. The other child has to do most things on their own. As long as the first child's mother can follow him through life, he can stay in a self confidence and perpetual pampering. But he has no real skills since his maternal prosthesis does it for him. In the second case, that child is more self sufficient for the rest of his life. He has selective advantage in the bigger picture of things. He is not a greenhouse orchid whose beauty is conditional on others, which may not last.

This orchid state of materialism is not stable in the long term, if everyone wants this. If all you needed to be happy, and out going, was money and a servant, and everyone wanted this, it implodes, since there will be no servants, since they also want this. We will need to bully half the people, so they can provide this for the other half.This is another pitfall.

I am not saying materialism is not beneficial in terms of improving the standard of living. This frees up time and energy, so one can practice being more self sufficient; hobbies.

Most crime is about the fastest way to obtain money and/or material things, so one can use this as the prosthesis, for subjective cultural success. The proof of this is the singer,who has top hits and lots of money. Suddenly, the materialist formula make him or her an expert is the topics of the day. That is an illusion. He may not have the inner worth in proportion to the outer image and inflated ego.

There are two ways to develop the brain and the intellect. We can input data from the outside through our sensory systems. This is how science and materialism works. We can use this external technique to build our ego by having others compliment us with audio output and feedback.

The other way is from the inside out. The creative person gets inspiration from within. The New Testament mentions the inner man growing and the inner man dying. This was Jesus's idea. All the material goodies of culture, that once did not exist; cell phone, came from the inside of someone. Once it is outside the materialist can enjoy it. Or they can become ruled by it, if their self esteem and intellect becomes too dependent on it.

As a non scientist, why does science actually study so intently the existence of a human being living, making statements of its intrinsic presence, yet not doing any of these studies for medical science purposes of assisting humans harmed as a healer self would in science aware information, but instead infer it in an occult pursuit?

Of a male claim who consciously owns sexual procreation to be self, man a Creator by the birth of self a newly born male baby?

And then own satellite and computer AI programming attack on Nature, when Nature already owned attack by radio wave radiation signals by all other previous machine communicators?

What do you think any rational human would be mind psyche advised about those forms of studies other than your intrinsic studies are done to remove human life in full formed ownership from not existing by the following beliefs.

….that creation owns a protonic beginning, yet humans would be eradicated.
…...humans own a cloud spirit first....as if they are a Satan angel that develops into being a Jesus angel....by nothing other than thinking statements of inferences....how a human male had his image as a human put into clouds?

And talk spatial womb as being our human beginnings instead of claiming a human being bio Mother as a human who had sex.

By inferences Immaculate conception.....and demonstrate that use of mind belief as a self confession in the public daily, talking about Jesus a human baby as if a male did get put immaculately by God into the womb of a human female life and preach it as if it is a rational quotation?

And you do.

Imagine those machine transmitted bio life cell attack were re connected to out of space radiation radio waves of a UFO, that then gets connected to the Sun?

What do you intrinsically think would happen to humans.....would we all go to Hell as the preacher of stating that you are a God, when you say God is no man. When you claim we are a gas in out of space...when we are a bio life formed by human sex. Would you not be telling us you will cause it in occult science machination your own selves?

As a cult group in that organization who always bullied your own selves?

 

[wellwisher]

As a non scientist, why does science actually study so intently the existence of a human being living, making statements of its intrinsic presence, yet not doing any of these studies for medical science purposes of assisting humans harmed as a healer self would in science aware information, but instead infer it in an occult pursuit?

It has to do wth the philosophy of science. The philosophy of science is centered on the external and group verification of nature, through our common sensory systems. Science is based on what we all can see and agree upon, based on sensory observation and first and second hand verification.

However, there are some things of the mind and consciousness that are real phenomena, but which do not fully play by these rules. For example, we have all had dreams to know these are a natural product of the brain. We or science can verify dreams with brain waves and REM.

If I was to relate a very specific dream, that I had, there is no way for others to sensory verify the details, to know if they are true and accurate. We have no way to double check or reproduce my exact results. Specific dreams do not always repeat. The dream may be real and true, but it does not meet all the criteria of the philosophy of the science. It is not included as real even though it is real.

Spiritual things and other internal affects of the mind and consciousness, such as intuitions and hunches, do not fit within the philosophy of science, even if they are real at some brain level, and can be verified through future output affects. The science that studies such things are called soft science, which has less prestige in science.

Soft science was more important before the age of enlightenment. Soft Science was more about internal observations and observations of projections, instead of external sensory observational science. When the philosophy of science was developed both affects were known at the time. Science tried to limit observation to just on half of the equation; sensory based. As an example, if we were all in the woods at night and someone hears a sound and thinks ti is bear, if this is not verified by another it will be rejected, Only thing we all agree will be accepted such it was very dark. The internal was filtered out by the philosophy so we could reality as it was.

The alchemists, who ushered in the age of enlightenment, would project their imaginary mystical philosophy into chemicals and based on how their mystical fantasy aligned; visions, they would infer chemical reactions. They developed chemistry and chemical procedures this way. The internal parts of the mind can have the answers, but in different ways. All innovation starts within. However, this beginning will not meet the needs of the philosophy of external science. Spirituality is about this other part of reality, that anticipates the future, without the senses, and thereby can optimize the present for that future vision.

For example, the child works hard studying in school, often to the point of sacrificing the joys of the present, even though only the present has direct sensory feedback. The vision of the future, does not meet the philosophy of science, but it provides a way to structure time, so a different future can become manifest. A pure external approach would not be able to resist the easy and delightful sensory feedback of real time; party all the time. Both are needed for a happy and useful life.

 

[rational experiences]

It has to do wth the philosophy of science. The philosophy of science is centered on the external and group verification of nature, through our common sensory systems. Science is based on what we all can see and agree upon, based on sensory observation and first and second hand verification.

However, there are some things of the mind and consciousness that are real phenomena, but which do not fully play by these rules. For example, we have all had dreams to know these are a natural product of the brain. We or science can verify dreams with brain waves and REM.

If I was to relate a very specific dream, that I had, there is no way for others to sensory verify the details, to know if they are true and accurate. We have no way to double check or reproduce my exact results. Specific dreams do not always repeat. The dream may be real and true, but it does not meet all the criteria of the philosophy of the science. It is not included as real even though it is real.

Spiritual things and other internal affects of the mind and consciousness, such as intuitions and hunches, do not fit within the philosophy of science, even if they are real at some brain level, and can be verified through future output affects. The science that studies such things are called soft science, which has less prestige in science.

Soft science was more important before the age of enlightenment. Soft Science was more about internal observations and observations of projections, instead of external sensory observational science. When the philosophy of science was developed both affects were known at the time. Science tried to limit observation to just on half of the equation; sensory based. As an example, if we were all in the woods at night and someone hears a sound and thinks ti is bear, if this is not verified by another it will be rejected, Only thing we all agree will be accepted such it was very dark. The internal was filtered out by the philosophy so we could reality as it was.

The alchemists, who ushered in the age of enlightenment, would project their imaginary mystical philosophy into chemicals and based on how their mystical fantasy aligned; visions, they would infer chemical reactions. They developed chemistry and chemical procedures this way. The internal parts of the mind can have the answers, but in different ways. All innovation starts within. However, this beginning will not meet the needs of the philosophy of external science. Spirituality is about this other part of reality, that anticipates the future, without the senses, and thereby can optimize the present for that future vision.

For example, the child works hard studying in school, often to the point of sacrificing the joys of the present, even though only the present has direct sensory feedback. The vision of the future, does not meet the philosophy of science, but it provides a way to structure time, so a different future can become manifest. A pure external approach would not be able to resist the easy and delightful sensory feedback of real time; party all the time. Both are needed for a happy and useful life.

What you see in science is self present owned, and self is included in that see.

A spiritual human sees self so does not do destructive science, so sacrifice of self is not true.

An occult science Destroyer ignores self and says that all other bodies are relevant to what he is NOT....how he destroys us.

Father said that his life was not a scientist, was lesser owned DNA historically, why today as the Native life, I was never the science self first is true.

The evolved human DNA by human birth and atmospheric cooling evolution returning of the Immaculate history was why the newly born baby self grew up into the returned higher life memory scientist, who was the original Destroyer.

He was not a life sacrificed, he was 100 per cent holy and spiritual and as a human in intellect was the most acutely aware, as compared to our lesser selves today. In that awareness he developed science.

So then you would ask, were you being sacrificed first in your origins?

The answer is no, so it is not a LAW of God you know liar of a brother to have your brother sacrificed....so why lie about it?

Being what modern day science selves, which includes the biologist scientist who says that all bodies that he peruses is not his own.

In this circumstance, his baby life WAS CREATED, unlike our Father who owned manifested consciousness.

In this circumstance he probability prophecized by his future science life, removal of said self DNA historically. His family who gets irradiated by his Destroyer burning of our atmosphere live mutated and sick in that future...by the time DNA re evolves from a non science practice, the actual lying s.o.b. returns to do it again.

That form of real human history, male liar Satanic scientist.