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Tumblr to ban 'adult content'

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Tumblr Is Banning Porn, So I Guess Tumblr Is Dead Now - Tumblr Banning Porn December 17
Apple Sucked Tumblr Into Its Walled Garden, Where Sex Is Bad - Motherboard

This year has been a bad year for adult free expression on the web. It started in April with the passage of the FOSTA-SESTA law, which is another nannying law that restricts the rights of adults in the name of "the children" and "victims of sex trafficking". This resulted in a number of sites with adult content either shuttering or shutting down the 18+ parts of their site, one of the most notable being Craigslist shutting down it's entire personals section in the US for fear of running afoul of this vague and wide-reaching law.
Craigslist Just Nuked Its Personal Ads Section Because of a Sex-Trafficking Bill

Now we hear today that Tumblr, one of the last major social media sites to allow adult content, will ban and purge such content starting December 17th. This due to a child porn panic, which led to the relatively puritanical Apple removing the Tumblr app from its App Store last last month.

This new policy will not only target hardcore porn but also photos and video depicting human genitals and "female presenting nipples" (oh, those dastardly female nipples; I suppose "male presenting" nipples will remain allowed) regardless of if they are sexual, with some vague exemptions:
Adult content

This basically makes its policy on adult content just as restrictive as Facebook's is now. Facebook's policy is restrictive to the exent that even pictures of non-sexual nudity, such as an indigenous tribeswomen wearing her native clothing that does not cover her breasts, can run afoul of the rules. Grotesquely, Facebook allows images of real graphic violence and even gore to be posted, usually behind a filter. No such exemption exists for nudity or images dealing with any sort of sexuality.

I'm sure some of you will just write this off as a site banning porn and so don't really care. But it's much more than that. Many artists use/d the site to post their portfolios, which may have included works featuring nudity and/or sexuality, as is common for artists and art students. Now even illustrations depicting sexual acts featuring consenting adults and behind an opt-in filter will be banned. Also, much of the sexual imagery served marginalized communities, such as LGBTQ people and others who lack representation of their bodies and sexualities. There was a real social aspect to this, with people sharing their own creations, curating their own collections to followers and commenting.

Also, in the Tumblr CEO's self-serving statement about the new policy, I saw much talk about a "safer" and more "positive" Tumblr, but nothing about a plan to deal with hate speech that exists on the site, including a sizable white supremacist and neo-Nazi community on that site. So he is being disingenuous at best with such statements.

Either way, thank you, Apple and Tumblr, for taking yet another big dump on free expression and creativity, not to mention providing yet another example of the insidious corporatization of the Internet, reducing the freeness of it. I plan to delete my account on there soon, and many others have announced plans to leave the site. I also have a friend who is an artist and she uploaded her work to the site, including NSFW erotic art, plans to do, since her work will now be banned, too!

Let me also add that Tumblr already had an opt-in policy for such content and you could not see it at all unless you had an account and were logged in, so it certainly was not easy to come across explicit material on the site in the first place.
 
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Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Tumblr Is Banning Porn, So I Guess Tumblr Is Dead Now - Tumblr Banning Porn December 17
Apple Sucked Tumblr Into Its Walled Garden, Where Sex Is Bad - Motherboard

This year has been a bad year for adult free expression on the web. It started in April with the passage of the FOSTA-SESTA law, which is another nannying law that restricts the rights of adults in the name of "the children" and "victims of sex trafficking". This resulted in a number of sites with adult content either shuttering or shutting down the 18+ parts of their site, one of the most notable being Craigslist shutting down it's entire personals section in the US for fear of running afoul of this vague and wide-reaching law.
Craigslist Just Nuked Its Personal Ads Section Because of a Sex-Trafficking Bill

Now we hear today that Tumblr, one of the last major social media sites to allow adult content, will ban and purge such content starting December 17th. This due to a child porn panic, which led to the relatively puritanical Apple removing the Tumblr app from its App Store last last month.

This new policy will not only target hardcore porn but also photos and video depicting human genitals and "female presenting nipples" (oh, those dastardly female nipples; I suppose "male presenting" nipples will remain allowed) regardless of if they are sexual, with some vague exemptions:
Adult content

This basically makes its policy on adult content just as restrictive as Facebook's is now. Facebook's policy is restrictive to the exent that even pictures of non-sexual nudity, such as an indigenous tribeswomen wearing her native clothing that does not cover her breasts, can run afoul of the rules. Grotesquely, Facebook allows images of real graphic violence and even gore to be posted, usually behind a filter. No such exemption exists for nudity or images dealing with any sort of sexuality.

I'm sure some of you will just write this off as a site banning porn and so don't really care. But it's much more than that. Many artists use/d the site to post their portfolios, which may have included works featuring nudity and/or sexuality, as is common for artists and art students. Now even illustrations depicting sexual acts featuring consenting adults and behind an opt-in filter will be banned. Also, much of the sexual imagery served marginalized communities, such as LGBTQ people and others who lack representation of their bodies and sexualities. There was a real social aspect to this, with people sharing their own creations, curating their own collections to followers and commenting.

Also, in the Tumblr CEO's self-serving statement about the new policy, I saw much talk about a "safer" and more "positive" Tumblr, but nothing about a plan to deal with hate speech that exists on the site, including a sizable white supremacist and neo-Nazi community on that site. So he is being disingenuous at best with such statements.

Either way, thank you, Apple and Tumblr, for taking yet another big dump on free expression and creativity, not to mention providing yet another example of the insidious corporatization of the Internet, reducing the freeness of it. I plan to delete my account on there soon, and many others have announced plans to leave the site. I also have a friend who is an artist and she uploaded her work to the site, including NSFW erotic art, plans to do, since her work will now be banned, too!

Let me also add that Tumblr already had an opt-in policy for such content and you could not see it at all unless you had an account and were logged in, so it certainly was not easy to come across explicit material on the site in the first place.

At the end of the day, Tumbler is a private enterprise and has every right to determine what they will and will not display. There are hundreds if not thousands od online outlets for displaying artist’s works.

On the other hand, you could start a crowd source funding to pay for a site which does not have any censorship.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
At the end of the day, Tumbler is a private enterprise and has every right to determine what they will and will not display. There are hundreds if not thousands od online outlets for displaying artist’s works.

On the other hand, you could start a crowd source funding to pay for a site which does not have any censorship.
No one said they're not allowed to do it, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice or that it must be supported. The power of corporations over the Internet is something needs to be looked at.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
All porn needs to go.

Regards Tony

‘Pornography” is a flexible word.

Who,gets to decide what is pornographic?

Christian invaders covered the genitalia of Roman statues with fig leaves because they found them offensive (or maybe it was an envy thing)

In victorian times, it was scandalous for a woman to show her ankles.

In medieval courts, for a short time, a woman of the court’s nipples were sometimes visible sbove their bodice and it was perfectly normal for a man to kiss her nipples as a sign of greeting and respect.

Who gets to,decide what is pornographic in nature? You?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I favor....
Higher moral standards re violence.
Lower moral standards re porn & personal ads.

Got a problem with human trafficking?
Let's divert police $ from victimless crimes to that.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
No one said they're not allowed to do it, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice or that it must be supported. The power of corporations over the Internet is something needs to be looked at.

I certainly agree that there is room for abuses. I just don’t see this as being abusive. On the other hand, there has been so much innovation precisely because the government has kept it’s hands out of it for the most part.
If the government wnats to do something, they should focus on things like spam, scams, and lack of security.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I certainly agree that there is room for abuses. I just don’t see this as being abusive. On the other hand, there has been so much innovation precisely because the government has kept it’s hands out of it for the most part.
If the government wnats to do something, they should focus on things like spam, scams, and lack of security.
Corporations are a much bigger threat to freedom and innovation than governments now. At least the American government, which has had it's ability to regulate big business stripped to almost nothing and is beholden to corporate lobbyists. American right-wingers need to wake up to this. Their fear-mongering about government control is anachronistic.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
It is good news that more and more pornographic sites getting taken down. hope all get taken away soon
How or why is that a good thing? Do you feel that consenual adult self-expression should be policed? Does my artist friend who makes adult erotic art (drawings) deserve to have her work censored?
 
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