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Trust in government healthcare and COVID

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
The National Library of Medicine notes that

Italy's health care system is a regionally based national health service that provides universal coverage largely free of charge at the point of delivery.​

A while back the Israeli newspaper Haaretz ran an opinion piece under the headline ...


It begins:

Thanks to deft political pandering by Giorgia Meloni, leader of the fascist-friendly Brothers of Italy, anti-vaxxers now have a powerful political patron in the country that suffered Europe's second highest COVID death toll.​

If elections were held today in Italy, a far right movement with deep post-fascist roots would have a clear shot at winning.

Brothers of Italy, which took just a bit more than four percent of the vote in the 2018 elections, has seen massive gains in recent opinion polls, and is now supported, according to most polls, by more than 20 percent of Italians, just inching out the League, the other major right-wing force in the country.

So what is going on? Has Italy suddenly gone back to black?

While it can be demonstrably argued that nostalgia for Benito Mussolini’s regime (and limited agitation) is still strong in Italy, the country has certainly not turned fascist overnight. Much of the Brothers’ meteoric rise is due to Italy’s current political circumstances amid the COVID-19 pandemic and its clever exploitation by Giorgia Meloni, the party’s leader, who openly aspires to one day rule the country.​

No. It's not the health care system.
Fascinating
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Some I know, including myself, decided we weren’t going to get the COVID vaccine back in January 2020.
This may be labeled as “misinformation” but many people have been expecting and warning about all of the COVID laws, including vaccine passport, for many years, well before 2020.
There is precedent that justifies not trusting the government. Those who have a “Zero Trust Policy” when it comes to the government are completely valid.
I can list cases of the US government indiscriminately releasing biological weapons on the local US populace for testing purposes. The government has been sued successfully hundreds of times for harm done through this very act. But that will be labeled as “misinformation”
If it really were misinformation (lies), how would you know? How did you determine that it was all true?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Obama's 60th birthday party is a great example of
inspiring dis-trust in government. It was supposed
to be a close friends & family affair. Supposed to.
We have all sorts of celebrities & politicians attending.
Pix show all in close contact without wearing masks.
And John Kerry (Mr Stop Global Warming) arrives by
private plane.

The dangers of Covid & AGW are a hard sell when
leaders who supposedly should care don't appear to.

DJ posts pics of Obama's birthday party before being forced to delete them
What Is Going on With Obama’s 60th Birthday Bash?
Barack Obama's Scaled-Down Birthday Bash Still Has A Lot Of Celebs | HuffPost
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Obama's 60th birthday party is a great example of
inspiring dis-trust in government. It was supposed
to be a close friends & family affair. Supposed to.
We have all sorts of celebrities & politicians attending.
Pix show all in close contact without wearing masks.
And John Kerry (Mr Stop Global Warming) arrives by
private plane.

The dangers of Covid & AGW are a hard sell when
leaders who supposedly should care don't appear to.

DJ posts pics of Obama's birthday party before being forced to delete them
What Is Going on With Obama’s 60th Birthday Bash?
Barack Obama's Scaled-Down Birthday Bash Still Has A Lot Of Celebs | HuffPost
Oh. I thought Biden was your president not Obama. And celebrities are always flouting the rules, so why care if an ex president does it?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Oh. I thought Biden was your president not Obama. And celebrities are always flouting the rules, so why care if an ex president does it?
It's the thread theme. Distrust in government is
interfering with many things, eg, elections, but
distrusting vaccines, masking, & social distancing
is having deadly consequences....
Officials split on masking children in schools as pediatric hospitals fill up with Covid-19 patients | CNN
Note the guest list...powerful folk in the current admin.
When our leaders openly flaunt disregard for safety,
ie, they talk the talk, but won't walk the walk, their
hypocrisy makes it harder to get skeptics to be safe.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Obama's 60th birthday party is a great example of
inspiring dis-trust in government. It was supposed
to be a close friends & family affair. Supposed to.
We have all sorts of celebrities & politicians attending.
Pix show all in close contact without wearing masks.
And John Kerry (Mr Stop Global Warming) arrives by
private plane.

The dangers of Covid & AGW are a hard sell when
leaders who supposedly should care don't appear to.

DJ posts pics of Obama's birthday party before being forced to delete them
What Is Going on With Obama’s 60th Birthday Bash?
Barack Obama's Scaled-Down Birthday Bash Still Has A Lot Of Celebs | HuffPost


They didn't invite Donald Trump?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
It's the thread theme. Distrust in government is
interfering with many things, eg, elections, but
distrusting vaccines, masking, & social distancing
is having deadly consequences....
Officials split on masking children in schools as pediatric hospitals fill up with Covid-19 patients | CNN
Note the guest list...powerful folk in the current admin.
When our leaders openly flaunt disregard for safety,
ie, they talk the talk, but won't walk the walk, their
hypocrisy makes it harder to get skeptics to be safe.
Fair enough
 
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