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Trump's Second Impeachment: Adoption of the Rules

ecco

Veteran Member
After informing you of my views, you continue misrepresenting them.
This is abusive, & very much against the spirit of RF.

You intentionally quote me out of context to make it seem I said something I didn't say and you have the gall to say I misrepresent your views. Spend a few bucks and buy and use a mirror.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You intentionally quote me out of context...
I just quoted your entire post, as you've previously demanded.
You must stop misrepresenting my views.
Perhaps you're intellectually not up to the
task of addressing what I really believe.
Straw men are much easier to attack, eh.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Trump was right about that. Unlike people who believe
their own side is without sin, & the other is pure evil, he
grokked diversity on both sides. To deny this is bigotry.
Whooda thunk that a boor like Trump would be the one
to actually be more tolerant than the left?

Yeah, now you only have to decide without an agenda and don't use apologetics, but rather come up with the productive and correct definitions of good/without sin and bad/pure evil. And you can do that, right? You don't have any agenda at all, right?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yeah, now you only have to decide without an agenda and don't use apologetics, but rather come up with the productive and correct definitions of good/without sin and bad/pure evil. And you can do that, right? You don't have any agenda at all, right?
Good is what I value.
Evil is what I oppose.
Buy this standard, I find both good & evil on both sides.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I didn't intend it to be that comprehensive.
But I answered the query you asked.
My values: Libertarian

That is still meaningless, because there is variation within the ideology so it doesn't really tell me anything.
Commit to some actual US examples and be as specific as possible with how you reason.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I won't be giving a comprehensive list of all my values.
You're awfully demanding, yet not so forthcoming about
why, or your own values. It doesn't seem like a discussion.

So you make a claim of good and bad, that you don't want to defend. Okay.

I will consider if I want to take the time of written down my positions, because you have in part a tendency to avoid reasoning and resort to personal beliefs, that you just take for granted. Not all the time, but I don't right now feel for written a long post and then have you not responding with any kind of attempt of justified reasoning.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So you make a claim of good and bad, that you don't want to defend. Okay.
I see your trick...
Make a mischievous claim about my intent in order to provoke.

I'm not here to provide you with extensive lists.
("Libertarian" describes my values, & answered
your question.) I prefer conversation.
You may ask more specific questions, or you
may offer your own opinions, & we'll discuss them.
But you'll have no success with unreasonably
broad demands that seem to lead nowhere.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I see your trick...
Make a mischievous claim about my intent in order to provoke.

I'm not here to provide you with extensive lists.
("Libertarian" describes my values, & answered
your question.) I prefer conversation.
You may ask more specific questions, or you
may offer your own opinions, & we'll discuss them.
But you'll have no success with unreasonably
broad demands that seem to lead nowhere.

Okay, can a government be any good?
Can taxes be any good?
Is any form of government control over a limited part of the economy be good?
Who in the end has the responsibility of those, who can't take care of themselves?
Are there a difference between morality and the legal?
What are rights?
What are duties?
Can all human behavior be done as an economical value?
Who do we make laws?

The list goes on and no, you don't have to answer. But the trick is that if we are too different in these answers, then in the end that there are good and people on both sides becomes meaningless, because we don't agree on good and bad. We might not even agree on what being civil means or what productive is. :D

So as it stands we can't even agree on how to understand the constitution of the USA.
So your point is sort of meaningless, because we don't get to good and bad. Rather you decide that is good to claim that there are good and bad people on both sides without explaining good.
That is the point.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Okay, can a government be any good?
Yes.
Can taxes be any good?
Yes.
Is any form of government control over a limited part of the economy be good?
Yes.
Who in the end has the responsibility of those, who can't take care of themselves?
Typically, that is assumed by government & charities.
Are there a difference between morality and the legal?
There can be.
What are rights?
Limits upon what government is allowed to do to us.
What are duties?
Impositions upon one, whether taken on oneself or imposed by
others. There will be questions about how far the latter goes.
Can all human behavior be done as an economical value?
Who do we make laws?
You're the Energizer Bunny of queries.
Instead of question after question, with no
discussion. This has not been interesting.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Typically, that is assumed by government & charities.

There can be.

Limits upon what government is allowed to do to us.

Impositions upon one, whether taken on oneself or imposed by
others. There will be questions about how far the latter goes.

You're the Energizer Bunny of queries.
Instead of question after question, with no discussion,
why not start a discussion. This isn't interesting.

Are the around 70% of Republicans who believe that the election was not proper and thus that trump won good or bad?
To me they are bad.
 
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