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Trump's latest, latest, really, really dumb thing

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Kangaroo Feathers, Apr 4, 2019.

  1. Kangaroo Feathers

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  2. Subduction Zone

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    I heard that. I could not believe it. It's the noise:confused:o_O:rolleyes:

    And the title of the thread is excellent. We can change topics almost every day.
     
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  3. Kangaroo Feathers

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    So, taking all bets, how are the Trumpettes gunna spin this one? My money is on "ignore that he said it, ignore anyone mentioning it, and hope everyone forgets about it".
     
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    What studies did Mr Trump cite? Surely his assertion's generated questions.
    By "windmill" did he mean wind turbines?
     
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  5. Kangaroo Feathers

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    Usual Suspects being remarkably quiet... I see them active in other threads, I wonder why they're not saying anything? I hope they're OK...
     
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    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    And his father was born in Germany except for the lying birth certificate and the fake news media who keep insisting that he was not. LOCK THEM UP (of course).
     
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    Hey!! Save something for tomorrow.

    EDIT: Oops, for some posters (the OP for example) it already is tomorrow.
     
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    "Tim Apple. Oranges. German Dad. Mental Health Experts Warn That Trump Is Losing It.

    Some say that the president’s language and behavior suggest cognitive decline, possibly associated with pre-dementia.

    President Donald Trump’s recent confusion with words and facts, including about his own father, could be signs of pre-dementia and deteriorating cognitive skills, mental health experts warn.

    “The ‘Tim Apple’ episode a few weeks ago, his calling Venezuela a company, and then yesterday, confusing his grandfather’s birthplace with his father’s, mispronouncing ‘oranges’ for ‘origins,’ and stating out of the blue, ‘I’m very normal,’” recited Bandy Lee, a professor of psychiatry at Yale University who has been waving red flags about Trump’s mental state for years. “There is no question he needs an examination.”

    “I think he’s suffering from pre-dementia. And it’s only getting worse,” said John Gartner, a clinical psychologist with practices in New York City and Baltimore.

    Speaking in the Oval Office Tuesday, Trump said that his father was “born in a very wonderful place in Germany.” In fact, his father was born in the Bronx. It was his paternal grandfather who emigrated from Germany. The president also said repeatedly that he wanted to take a look at the “oranges” of the special counsel investigation against him, when he clearly meant “origins.”

    Last month, Trump called Apple CEO Tim Cook “Tim Apple” ― but later claimed that he had, in fact, said “Tim Cook Apple,” but people missed “Cook” because he’d said it very rapidly, and finally claimed that he was trying to save time by skipping some words.

    “That was real cognitive slippage,” Gartner said. “And then he tried to cover for it.”

    On Tuesday night, [4/2/2019] during his speech at the National Republican Congressional Committee spring dinner, Trump, who was then in the middle of 90 minutes of rambling remarks, veered off on a two-minute, 22-second detour that touched on how wind turbines kill bald eagles and other birds, moved on to how North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un was not ready for a deal, came back to how people who use wind power can’t watch television if the wind doesn’t blow, and finished with former President Barack Obama playing golf in Hawaii:"
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    Then, of course, there's Trump's latest obsession.






    "But where does the president's public opposition to wind energy stem from? Could it be personal? Of course it is. When doesn't a Trump position on an issue not come down to a matter of personal interest.


    It appears to date back to his days in the tourism business, and specifically, the recent development of his golf course opened in 2012 in Aberdeenshire, Scotland. When the city sought to install windmills nearby, Trump fought against the Scottish government, eventually taking legal action. His attempts ultimately failed and, in 2018, the newly installed windmills were generating enough electricity for at least 75 percent of all homes in the city of Aberdeen, according to Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon.

    In 2012, however, Trump took his fight against windmills before the Scottish Parliament, marking one of the first times Trump was publicly challenged on the evidence behind his opinions on wind turbines.

    At the time, Trump said he spent "tremendous money" on what "many already consider to be the greatest golf course anywhere in the world," and he didn't want to see the property destroyed by "monstrosities." He also argued that installing them would put the entire country in "serious trouble."

    "Almost most importantly -- other than the fact that the subsidies are enormous -- almost most importantly, is the fact that the windmills are so unattractive, so ugly, so noisy and so dangerous that, if Scotland does this, I think that Scotland will be in serious trouble," Trump said, repeating claims he continues to use in political rallies as president.

    Immediately after Trump's testimony, he was reminded by a member of the Scottish Parliament that the hearing wasn't on any specific wind turbine developments and had nothing to do with his golf course. Scottish Parliament Member Chic Brodie also dove into Trump's multiple claims, pressing him for data to back them up.

    Brodie cited research that refuted each of Trump's claims about Scotland, saying that surveying showed tourists would not be deterred from vacationing in Scotland, that 70 percent of Scots themselves supported wind power, that some wind turbine farms in Europe were known to actually draw tourists and that, despite Trump's concerns for the environment, the World Wildlife Fund of Scotland supported turbines.

    Brodie then asked Trump for evidence. Twice.


    "First of all, I am the evidence," Trump said to laughter in the parliament's chamber. Though it was four years before he would announce his run for president and make similar claims about wind energy at political rallies across the U.S., it would be a preview of his unwavering political style as president.

    "You know what? I think that I am a lot more of an expert than the people who you would like me to hire, who are doing it to make a paycheck. I am considered a world-class expert in tourism," Trump said at the time. "When you say, 'Where is the expert and where is the evidence?' I say: I am the evidence."
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    I would feel ashamed that we have such an idiot for a President, but I didn't vote for him, so my conscience is clear.

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  9. Kangaroo Feathers

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    I hadn't even heard about his father's birth place being retconned, but honestly, there's so many instances, who can keep up?
     
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    I look forward to the people who were happy to diagnose Hillary with all manner of ailments based on her appearance, armed with webMD knowledge, arriving en masse to wail how unfair it is for professional doctors to attempt to diagnose Trump without the most exhaustive possible tests (and even then, I imagine they'll claim any negative diagnoses were mere 'opinion")
     
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    This thread may have new entries being added well after he leaves office.
     
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    It actually is unethical to diagnose someone who isn't your patient/client. Of course I get what you're saying, and I agree it will happen, but this fascination with applying diagnoses to people needs to be nipped in the bud because ultimately such attempts are highly speculative and missing so many pieces of the puzzle that a proper diagnosis can't be reached. Even with seemingly simple things, there are potentially other things going on that better explain behaviors, but we can't see or know them because we aren't there to take tests, provide assessments, or ask questions, and then of course many ailments have very similar symptoms and even doctors can have a hard time telling them apart.
     
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    If you actually watch the video it is clear this is a straw man attack. President Trump doesn’t of himself say wind mills cause cancer. He said house prices near wind turbines drop 75%. He gives a reason for the drop. It is because “they” say it causes cancer. He isn’t saying windmills cause cancer. He is mocking those people do say that. Here we have yet another example of Trump haters trying to create a straw man out of whole cloth.
     
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    With spin like that, you're in danger of windmill cancer yourself!

    No one says it. "They" or otherwise. Trump is a buffoon either way, so take your pick.

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    Pot calling kettle black. You are the one trying to spin Trump saying something when he is claiming some others are saying something. Sorry to point out that the facts don’t support your spin,

    President Trump says “they” said it, not him. Unless you know everything that everyone ever told him, something you ineluctably can not know, your statement that “no one says it” is nonsense.
     
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    And Trump is a buffoon for saying so. There is no "they". But believe what you must to maintain your tissue.
     
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    President Trump said “If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value. And they say the noise causes cancer.“ Please note, “they say ...”

    President Trump never for himself said that windmills cause cancer. Sorry that pours cold water over your “fun” of attempting to mock him for something he actually did not say. Too bad for you. But if you persist in trying to mock him for saying something he actually didn’t say, that only makes you look foolish. And to continue to claim he said something when you have been provided with evidence he did not is to lie.
     
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    That is often an effective technique to use when a belief is one's own crazy belief. No one makes that idiotic claim except for Trump. By lying and using the phrase "they say" he gives himself plausible deniability with the Kool And drinkers.
     
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