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Trump's first speech to Congress

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Falvlun, Mar 1, 2017.

  1. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    I use to hold that exact same view, but I got tired of the knowledge gap.
     
  2. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    I spend all that time learning useful and productive things, which contributes to my ever-growing knowledge gap with most people. I'm comfortable with that knowledge gap.
     
  3. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    Oh I understand, you are a special and unique flower, not like those people that read the news.
     
  4. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    Most news isn't real knowledge.....it's learning the opinions of various talking heads.
    Example...
    Suzan B Anchor will opine about what John Q Politician said,
    instead of playing the actual recording of what he said.
    I'd know how she feels about him....but would I know what he said?
     
  5. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    Interesting characterization. Although, look at who actually got triggered.
     
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  6. YmirGF

    YmirGF Bodhisattva

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    Tissues for issues, eh? Sounds like a good bet. :)
     
  7. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    I am well aware of that aspect.
     
  8. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    I didn't get "triggered" but I can understand why you would draw that conclusion. I just care less what people think about me.
     
  9. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    Yes, obviously.
     
  10. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    Oh I know what is next. I know that after you get done pretending you are smarter than everyone else you love to play this game, but there is already a thread about that subject here:
    The last post is the WINNER!
     
  11. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    Quick like a bunny get the last word. It will prove how smart you are.
     
  12. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    Ironic much?
     
  13. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    Ah, I knew it, and I even had a good guess along what lines you would respond.
     
  14. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    Of course you did. Because you're such a smart, special snowflake. Don't worry, everybody can see that.
     
  15. 4consideration

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    I saw the speech. I didn't read the Iinked article.

    Overall, I thought it was a good speech.

    I liked hearing him make it clear he sees it as his job to represent the American people -- and that he intends to do that, and doesn't apologize for it. I like that he made it clear he didn't think it his job to speak for the entire world. For a long time now, I've disliked seeing the POTUS described as The Leader of the Free World, because it seemed arrogant and seemed like the President of the US was being presented as though he were King of the World.

    Overall, there was more that I liked about the speech than disliked.

    There was one place where I found myself pause, instinctually, and I groaned along with the Democrats -- although I recognize there is a problem in that area of crimes committed by immigrants/refugees being downplayed, or covered over -- I think in the US, as well as in Europe -- and I haven't figured out a better solution, myself.

    But...when I heard there was to be a new office especially for victim's of crimes involving immigrants, something felt uncomfortable to me about that. I'm just not sure about how I feel about that, or even what to watch for, but I did find myself saying, "What?"
     
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    I heard it was a good speech. It wasn't his usually I'm your boss so I know everything better than you speech or his Bannon strategically scripted speech.

    There was a great moment where he gave his condolences to the recent widow and everyone stood up. This was good enough for a CNN leftist panel to suggest he finally became the president.

    I'll give him a thumbs up for this. He needs to lead through empathy and inspiration, not suggest how he knows everything like the back of his hand.
     
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    Trump just can't go wrong, he is certainly the man for the job, despite what all the miserable guts say.
     
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    These are things I can get behind as well. However, him actually following through with what he says or it not being a bait and switch is what I'll be waiting for.

    We've heard similar song and dances before, like him wanting to "drain the swamp" at one point and filling it up with snakes instead. I'm hoping it's not just more of that.
     
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    More than 43.4 million watched Pres. Donald Trumpā€˜s first address to Congress last night on the broadcast and cable news networks, according to Nielsen. This does not include the estimated 16 million that watched using data streaming such as Xfinity's internet web services, nor the estimated 6 million who listened via radio on many news talk stations.

    The 2017 Academy Awards on Sunday drew 32.9 million U.S. viewers, the smallest audience for the Oscars since 2008, according to Nielsen. This does not include the estimated 4 million who watched via data streaming.

    10.5 million more people watched President Trump's address on Tuesday on broadcast and cable than did watch the Oscars on Sunday two days prior.
     
  20. Falvlun

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    That's a good point I hadn't considered before.

    It's a fine line to cross. We can't afford to be the World's Police. But at the same time, I don't think we should withdraw completely from the world's stage.

    I was actually pleasantly surprised that it was a much more normal politician speech than is usual for Trump. It's a little reassuring that he can play nice.

    Me too. This was probably the most concerning part of the speech for me. It's such an obvious ploy to paint immigrants as Bad Guys.
     
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