Trump's Benghazi

[Audie]

Your memory is only half right - it was about the video. State reacted immediately and troops were sent in - sadly too late, but they were sent.

You are also ignoring that State asked Congress for more money to properly staff that, and other at-risk locations. Congress refused.

If you are satisfied that due diligence was done,
I am not. I doubt israel or Russia would have
failed to act.

 

[Cooky]

The difference is mountains vs. molehills.

I remember when conservatives were whining about how often Obama played golf. Yet when Trump far surpassed Obama's time spent on the courses, those who were whining are now mysteriously silent.
And let's not forget the squeals of "lock her up."

Happy birthday, old timer.

 

[Revoltingest]

The difference is mountains vs. molehills.

I remember when conservatives were whining about how often Obama played golf. Yet when Trump far surpassed Obama's time spent on the courses, those who were whining are now mysteriously silent.
And let's not forget the squeals of "lock her up."

And now we've squeals of "lock him up".
Let's hope that 2020 has much less squealing overall.

 

[Father Heathen]

And now we've squeals of "lock him up".
Let's hope that 2020 has much less squealing overall.

My point is about consistency. People either care about law, ethics, morality, etc. or they don't. You don't get to flip-flop based on the accused's political affiliation, or presume innocence or guilt based solely on it.

 

[Revoltingest]

My point is about consistency. .

So was mine....& it included generality.
Problems seldom reside in one side, but not the other.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Hey, I know guys..! Let's make a big deal out of everything Trump does, even if it's meaningless in every way!

The actions of politicians should be carefully scrutinized by the voters.

 

[sooda]

If you are satisfied that due diligence was done,
I am not. I doubt israel or Russia would have
failed to act.

There were 22 US embassies on alert the week of the Benghazi attack.. They were under siege by protesters and rioters. Fox ran a map all week of the locations.

 

[Audie]

There were 22 US embassies on alert the week of the Benghazi attack.. They were under siege by protesters and rioters. Fox ran a map all week of the locations.

That makes the negligence that much worse, doesnt it.

 

[sooda]

That makes the negligence that much worse, doesnt it.

How so? I can't imagine that they thought a Temporary Mission Facility would be attacked?

 

[Cooky]

The actions of politicians should be carefully scrutinized by the voters.

Yeah, but your use of the word "carefully" seems to imply something different from how I would prefer to see it applied.

What I see here is reckless scrutiny, based on partisan politics. And then using tu quoque fallacies in hopes of causing problems where no problems actually exist.

 

[Audie]

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How so? I can't imagine that they thought a Temporary Mission Facility would be attacked?

That is an intellegence, dilligence failure.
Failure to respond is a whole lot worse.

 

[sooda]

O


That is an intellegence, dilligence failure.
Failure to respond is a whole lot worse.

Well, the Annex was a CIA covert action to monitor the Eastern tribes.. They were all linguists and translators.. Wouldn't they be considered intelligence?

 

[ecco]

So you want to imitate the Republicans. How unoriginal.

Goose/Gander Pot/Kettle.

You would prefer to use the term imitate. How about pay-back!

 

[ecco]

The difference is mountains vs. molehills.

I remember when conservatives were whining about how often Obama played golf. Yet when Trump far surpassed Obama's time spent on the courses, those who were whining are now mysteriously silent.
And let's not forget the squeals of "lock her up."

HYPOCRISY The Repubs/Sheeples are really good at it.

 

[Cooky]

Goose/Gander Pot/Kettle.

You would prefer to use the term imitate. How about pay-back!

That's destructive, and shows no leadership qualities.

Good leadership requires the inventing of new paths... What the left is doing is spinning their wheels, and causing a lot of smoke.

 

[ecco]

O


That is an intellegence, dilligence failure.
Failure to respond is a whole lot worse.

First off, it wasn't an intelligence failure. State strongly recommended that Chris Stevens close the facility and leave. He felt what he was doing was important and choose to stay.

Second, there was not a failure to respond. The attack was over long before help arrived.

Audie, I have come to expect better from you in terms of knowing the facts.

 

[sooda]

First off, it wasn't an intelligence failure. State strongly recommended that Chris Stevens close the facility and leave. He felt what he was doing was important and choose to stay.

Second, there was not a failure to respond. The attack was over long before help arrived.

Audie, I have come to expect better from you in terms of knowing the facts.

Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi from Tripoli over night to dedicate an emergency services program for Benghazi Hospital in cooperation with Mass General Hospital. The attacks were opportunistic and spur of the moment.

 

[Audie]

Well, the Annex was a CIA covert action to monitor the Eastern tribes.. They were all linguists and translators.. Wouldn't they be considered intelligence?

Intelligence failure somewhere

 

[Audie]

First off, it wasn't an intelligence failure. State strongly recommended that Chris Stevens close the facility and leave. He felt what he was doing was important and choose to stay.

Second, there was not a failure to respond. The attack was over long before help arrived.

Audie, I have come to expect better from you in terms of knowing the facts.

I have no partisan interest in this.

If they thought it so dangerous were
plans made for if things went south?

For sure nobody got there in time.
That can be defined as not a failure?
Did anyone even try?
How long does it take for F16s to go (how far?)

Obviously nobody wanted to be held
responsible in any way at any level.

As your late Admiral Richover said-

"If you are not responsible, you
are irresponsible."

 

[Cooky]

First off, it wasn't an intelligence failure. State strongly recommended that Chris Stevens close the facility and leave. He felt what he was doing was important and choose to stay.

Second, there was not a failure to respond. The attack was over long before help arrived.

Audie, I have come to expect better from you in terms of knowing the facts.

Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me... Everyone, quick, get out your tin foil hats!