Trump to use desaster relief funds

[Salvador]

Of course they would. If you were fleeing for your life this would not deter you for a second.

"Illegal border crossings for Hungary dropped from 391,384 in 2015 to 1,418 in 2017 after the construction of border barriers – a 99.6 percent decrease."

**Edited to include reference for source of information regarding the number of illegal border crossings during the year before and the year after Hungary's construction of border barriers**

FACT CHECK: Did Hungary Reduce Illegal Immigration By 99 Percent With A Border Wall?

 

[TheresOnlyNow]

Rolling Stone?
Talk about yellow journalism.

 

[TheresOnlyNow]

Trump can use the national defense budget and build the wall and Congress can't stop it. He's the CiC. His duty is to protect and defend this nation.
Democrats are talking now out of the other side of their face when they oppose the wall under Trump. But supported it under Obama. Very transparent hypocrisy.
It is a crisis. It has always been one. The wall now is ineffective. Illegal aliens are invading this country intending to take it over.
One politician said last week that it isn't illegal immigration into California because California belongs to those illegal aliens invading it.


While there is one barrier that doesn't need funding. The Sonoran Desert.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Of course they would. If you were fleeing for your life this would not deter you for a second.

Look at what they are already willing to do. If you think this is going to change their minds you are deluded.

I'm sure they stopped fleeing for their lives once they enterd the interior of Mexico of whom by the way offered to take them all in.

 

[tytlyf]

Illegal border crossings for Hungary dropped from 391,384 in 2015 to 1,418 in 2017 after the construction of border barriers – a 99.6 percent decrease.

Disingenuous.

FACT CHECK: Did Hungary Reduce Illegal Immigration By 99 Percent With A Border Wall?

 

[Salvador]

Disingenuous.

FACT CHECK: Did Hungary Reduce Illegal Immigration By 99 Percent With A Border Wall?

Thank you for sharing this fact check verifying the fact that "Illegal border crossings for Hungary dropped from 391,384 in 2015 to 1,418 in 2017 after the construction of border barriers – a 99.6 percent decrease."

 

[Sand Dancer]

Morons Are Great Again!

Morons Are Governing America.

 

[Nous]

I suspect Trump will have more legal difficulty grabbing the disaster relief funds than repurposing military funds. Apparently WH counsel are not confident on either method.

 

[Nous]

A humanitarian crisis is indeed happening with 200 to 300 migrant deaths each year while there are migrants trying to cross into the United States from Mexico;

So you oppose doing anything that would put migrants at greater risk of injury or death than currently exists. Correct?

 

[Nous]

Happy birthday, @Riders

 

[Nous]

President Donald J. Trump, as commander and chief, can legally utilize "un-obligated" money within the Defense Department's budget, because federal law allows the military to fund construction projects during war or emergencies.

The repurposed funds must have a military use or purpose. Building a border wall in order to substitute for a failed campaign promise fails to qualify in more than one way.

 

[Salvador]

The repurposed funds must have a military use or purpose. Building a border wall in order to substitute for a failed campaign promise fails to qualify in more than one way.

Since 2001, 15 suspected terrorists have been apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border.
Most information reflecting such border-crossers are hidden in classified or protected government archives and intelligence databases; so these 15 terrorism-associated migrants, who traveled to our nation's southern border, likely represent a significant under-count.
According to the Center for Immigration Studies, which collected information from intelligence community sources with access to protected government information, there were at least 100 migrants between 2012 and 2017 from "countries of interest" at or en route to the southern border; these migrants matched the U.S. terrorism "watch lists" known as the Terrorist Identities Data-mart Environment (TIDE), or the Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB).
There could be many migrants associated with terrorists who crossed the land border, but these migrants linked to terrorism cannot be publicly reported.

Have Terrorists Crossed Our Border?

The POTUS can rightfully declare a national emergency for appropriating funds from the U.S. military to secure our southern border from the infiltration of terrorists.

 

[Salvador]

So you oppose doing anything that would put migrants at greater risk of injury or death than currently exists. Correct?

I've donated $100 to the go-fund-me crowd funding website for an effective border security barrier system that'd deter migrants from risking their lives walking across the dangerous desert wilderness near our southern border with Mexico.

 

[Nous]

Since 2001, 15 suspected terrorists have been apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border.
Most information reflecting such border-crossers are hidden in classified or protected government archives and intelligence databases; so these 15 terrorism-associated migrants, who traveled to our nation's southern border, likely represent a significant under-count.
According to the Center for Immigration Studies, which collected information from intelligence community sources with access to protected government information, there were at least 100 migrants between 2012 and 2017 from "countries of interest" at or en route to the southern border; these migrants matched the U.S. terrorism "watch lists" known as the Terrorist Identities Data-mart Environment (TIDE), or the Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB).
There could be many migrants associated with terrorists who crossed the land border, but these migrants linked to terrorism cannot be publicly reported.

Have Terrorists Crossed Our Border?

The POTUS can rightfully declare a national emergency for appropriating funds from the U.S. military to secure our southern border from the infiltration of terrorists.

Screening persons who wish to enter, or have entered, the country is a federal law enforcement duty, not a military duty. Border walls do not have a military use or purpose. For the president to reappropriate funds that Congress has provided for military use or purposes, so that he can fulfill a campaign promise hardly justifies declaring a national emergency. Period.

 

[Nous]

I've donated $100 to the go-fund-me crowd funding website for an effective border security barrier system that'd deter migrants from risking their lives walking across the dangerous desert wilderness near our southern border with Mexico.

I'll ask again:

So you oppose doing anything that would put migrants at greater risk of injury or death than currently exists. Correct?

 

[Salvador]

Screening persons who wish to enter, or have entered, the country is a federal law enforcement duty, not a military duty. Border walls do not have a military use or purpose. For the president to reappropriate funds that Congress has provided for military use or purposes, so that he can fulfill a campaign promise hardly justifies declaring a national emergency. Period.

Illegal border crossings into Hungary from Croatia and Serbia declined over 99 percent from 2015 to 2017 when Hungary constructed its border security barrier system in 2016. Whether its the responsibility of the federal law enforcement or military, our nation needs such an effective border security barrier system to significantly decrease the chance of illegal border crossings by terrorists trespassing across the open border from Mexico into the U.S. .

Most border patrol agents and law enforcement support the wall!

Border Patrol agents back Trump wall, survey finds

 

[Nous]

Illegal border crossings into Hungary from Croatia and Serbia declined over 99 percent from 2015 to 2017 when Hungary constructed its border security barrier system in 2016. Whether its the responsibility of the federal law enforcement or military, our nation needs such an effective border security barrier system to significantly decrease the chance of illegal border crossings by terrorists trespassing across the open border from Mexico into the U.S. .

It's quite amazing and illogical that anyone would continue claim that a border wall between the US and Mexico will prevent people from entering the country, and base this claim on a completely disanalogous example of another wall that allegedly prevented a bunch of people from crossing a line. It's ridiculous! It's like claiming that since the Airbus 380 jet can carry 600 people, the F16 will carry 600 people, since they're both jets! And that's on top of the fact that the claim that the other wall somewhere prevented people from crossing a line commits the logical fallacy of asserting that correlation implies causation!

I realize that partisans are unaccustomed to using logic, but the attempts to justify Trump's border wall are so laughably absurd. Trump's campaign promise of a border wall was and is rooted in bigotry, not logic; Trump's campaign promise of a border wall was and is an expression of irrational animus toward the brown people who arrive here from "s -- hole countries" (his term) south of the border. And Trump's campaign promise of a border wall was intended to incite support for his candidacy for president from people who share that bigotry, and did in fact incited such support.

 

[Salvador]

I'll ask again:

So you oppose doing anything that would put migrants at greater risk of injury or death than currently exists. Correct?

The status quo situation at the open border with Mexico is very dangerously unacceptable , make the border safer for everybody, build the wall!

 

[Nous]

The status quo situation at the open border with Mexico is very dangerously unacceptable , make the border safer for everybody, build the wall!

What's the reason you don't want to answer my question:

So you oppose doing anything that would put migrants at greater risk of injury or death than currently exists. Correct?

 

[Salvador]

What's the reason you don't want to answer my question:

So you oppose doing anything that would put migrants at greater risk of injury or death than currently exists. Correct?

I and others have nice large fences around our homes to keep out unwanted trespassers, who would get shot and killed if they tried breaking into our homes. Likewise, an effective border security barrier system would be a more humane solution for helping out illegal migrants from getting harmed or killed.