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Trump says Jews who vote dem are disloyal.

Discussion in 'Political Debates' started by Father Heathen, Aug 21, 2019.

  1. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    You don't see the number of people that defend Ohmar and Tlaib? Well then that's a you problem.
     
  2. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    Pales in comparison to the number of fascist posters!! Who believe Trump is the chosen second coming of God.
     
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  3. Father Heathen

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    Wait, so that's your criteria for being "far left"? But anyway I'm not a fan and pay them little attention.
     
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    Jeee wizzz but you are asleep my dear.
    These 2 islamic Jihadi supporters are saying that Jews have no right in israel.
    They openly flirt with terrorist organisations that wants to kill all Jews in Israel!
    You are now in support of their call for killing Jews,
    And you think Trump is making a joke?
    And, If you call Trump a Fascist you are one of these liberal leftist Communist socialists who think it is wonderfull to kill Jews and to glorify the worst creatures ever seen in the American Congress.
    now listen closely.
    Any Jew that votes for Ilhead Omar and Rasputina Taliban are in total ignorance about the hatred these witches are spreadding, or they are trators to the Jewish people.
    It makes sense!
    Any Jew that votes for someone who wants to kill Jews, are a trator!

    And I am in awe that for once you have a president that calls these rubbish out for what they are!
    And you support the congress jihadies who wants to go to Palestine to further violence in Israel, when these Witches, spelled with a B, cant even fix their own constituencies!
    Shame on you!
     
  5. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    Irrational nonsense
     
  6. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    The same as it's always been for the past 3 years. If you don't know by now your being willfully ignorant.
     
  7. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    If you don't know Trump is insane by now you complicitly ignorant!!
     
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    Jewish people can be very high minded.. Trump knows nothing about that. He has miscalculated.

    I am a disloyal Jew.

    I am not loyal to a political party.
    Nor will I be loyal to dictators and mad kings.
    I am not loyal to walls or cages.
    I am not loyal to taunts or tweets.
    I am not loyal to hatred, to Jew-baiting, to the gloating connivings of white supremacy.


    I am a disloyal Jew.

    I am not loyal to any foreign power.
    Nor to abuse of power at home.
    I am not loyal to a legacy of conquest, erasure and exploitation
    I am not loyal to stories that tell me whom I should hate.


    I am a loyal Jew.

    I am loyal to the inconveniences of kindness.
    I am loyal to the dream of justice.
    I am loyal to this suffering Earth
    And to all life.
    I am not loyal to any founding fathers.
    But I am loyal to the children who will come
    And to the quality of world we leave them.
    I am not loyal to what America has become.
    But to what America could be.
    I am loyal to Emma Lazarus. To huddled masses.
    To freedom and welcome,
    Holiness, hope and love.

    Reb Irwin Keller lives in Sonoma County California and is a student member of Ohalah, the Association of Rabbis for Jewish Renewal. Learn more about his website here.
     
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  9. Guitar's Cry

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    Which organizations?

    I think Trump has fascist fantasies and some of his followers worship him like a fascist. Does that make me liberal leftist communist socialist light?
     
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    He was not....Trump also think he is "King of da Joos" as well."
     
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    This is what makes Omar's position poignant.
     
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    Can you show proof these congresswomen are racist? This is a big claim.
     
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    This is truly the rationalization of a Trump supporter (I'm not saying you're a Trump supporter but that is usually the logic) the only litmus test to this is, if Obama said the same thing considering the type of criticism he received from the far right, would people on the right rationalize Obama's comment of being the "chosen one" the same way as you've just did.
     
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    I can't speak to what anyone else would have done. as I'm not a Trump supporter (nor an Obama supporter) drawing conclusions seems fruitless. His body language and the context, coupled with his limitations as a public speaker make the meaning clear to me. Could I be wrong? Sure. But to my eyes, what he said and how he said it were dumb but not what is being painted.
     
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    A you a professional at reading body language or is this your assumption based on your observation?
     
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    Professional? No, not that I get directly paid to do it, but in my field, reading body language and tone of voice is essential as part of understanding. That, of course, is not exclusive of "my observation," in fact, the two options overlap.
     
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    The fact is that is your perspective that does not necessarily make it true. for a lot of other people they take a different perspective. I'm more inclined to think Trump is elevating himself in a non-humorous way given his antics over the years.
     
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    So that is your understanding of it. But as an American Jew, the group being characterized as responding to the comment in a particular way (either as anti-semitic or pandering, depending om the media outlet), and having discussed it with other American Jews, I don't think my perspective should be marginalized or ignored.
     
  20. Enoch07

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