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Trump says Iran made ‘big mistake’ by taking down US drone

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Landon Caeli, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. siti

    siti Well-Known Member

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    What did you have in mind? Swords, crusades, inquisitions, burnings at the stake...
     
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  2. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    I only placed 3rd last year.
    Aim'n high for 2019.
     
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  3. siti

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    But your "voting works...only not always for the better" surely would have won hands down in 2016 - on both sides of the Atlantic!
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    I can't believe some of the war-mongering posts on this thread.
    I guess that this is how the last war got going........

    I's forgotten about flight 655.
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    I wouldn't be surprised if our leadership never even heard of it.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    I thought that a very dodgy US mission in to Iranian territory went horribly wrong, with aircraft crashing and many lives lost. Didn't Carter resign over that?
     
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    Yeah, it was a fluke. Nothing ever goes perfectly.

    Eisenhower mentioned it, and it's been used in a variety of contexts.

    It's not unheard or anything unprecedented for government officials to take bribes to give favorable arrangements to government contractors. It's happened in lower levels of government and other departments. I don't see what would make the Defense Department so immune to this kind of thing. And I doubt any of those companies would tell their employees if they were involved in any shady deals.

    Of course I do.

    It was just a hypothetical. You were asking how could it happen and how Trump could benefit. That outlines one possible way.
     
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    He didn't resign, but he was defeated in 1980 by Ronald Reagan.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    We do this as well, you know.
    ...have done, anyway.

    And our countries seem to ignore International guidance and opinion whenever it suits us.

    If something bloody stupid happens, and when (some) folks are telling us all how things went wrong, they might benefit from being made to read posts that they wtrote here, now.
     
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    Eisenhower was a politician.
    They tend to say things for political effect, independent of reality.
    Is it true because people often claim it?
    If that were a cromulent method, then it would be
    objective proof that Jesus Christ is my lord & savior.
    Which contractors bribed which officials?
    How would bribed Defense Dept types manipulate our elections?
    If leaders are picked by the MIC, why bother?
    The only potential benefit I see for Trump in attacking Iran is
    that voters & other politicians might fall in line to support the war
    by supporting him. But that's not without its risks.
     
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    International guidance isn't all it's cracked up to be either.
    Remember that your country went in halvsies on that
    1953 coup in Iran. You guys are corrupt idiots too.
     
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    It appears that Trump had already initiated the war, but then backed off.
    In the news....
    Trump Approves Strikes on Iran, but Then Abruptly Pulls Back
    Excerpted....
    WASHINGTON — President Trump approved military strikes against Iran in retaliation for downing an American surveillance drone, but pulled back from launching them on Thursday night after a day of escalating tensions.

    As late as 7 p.m., military and diplomatic officials were expecting a strike, after intense discussions and debate at the White House among the president’s top national security officials and congressional leaders, according to multiple senior administration officials involved in or briefed on the deliberations.
     
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    The problem with people like @Landon Caeli is that he is on the internet suggesting war like its Call of Duty. Until he has an M-16 in his hand and is actually getting shot at by 5.56 rounds I wouldn't take his opinion serious.
     
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    Yes, but our motives were pure . . . weren't they?
     
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    Wars ranked by total number of U.S. military deaths

    Rank,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,War.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Years.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,total deaths

    1 American Revolutionary War ----------------- 2,500,000

    2 War of 1812–15 ------------------------------------ 8,000,000

    3 Mexican–American War 1846–48 ---------- 21,406,000

    4 American Civil War 1861–65 ----------------- 31,443,000

    5 World War I 1917–18 ------------------------- 103,268,000

    6 World War II 1941–45 ------------------------ 133,402,000

    7 Korean War 1950–53 ------------------------- 151,325,000

    8 Vietnam War 1961–75 ----------------------- 179,323,175

    9 Iraq War 2003–2011 --------------------------294,043,000

    10 Trump's war <:>?
     
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    Counter-Electronics High Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project (CHAMP), can zap Iranian military with high-power microwaves, rendering their military capabilities virtually useless without causing any fatalities,
     
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    You might want to recheck your numbers. For example you Iraq war deaths are greater than the entire U.S. population in 2003:

    us ppulation 2003 - Google Search
     
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  18. Salvador

    Salvador RF's Swedenborgian

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    Counter-Electronics High Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project (CHAMP), can be launched over Iranian airspace at low altitude and emit sharp pulses of high power microwave energy that disable any electronic devices targeted. These missiles could zap the military electronics of Iran with high-power microwaves, rendering their military capabilities virtually useless without there having anybody getting killed by this weapon.

    Counter-electronics High Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project - Wikipedia
     
  19. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    Drinking Trump's kool-aid hook, line and sinker, are you?

    That is exactly what made this situation possible in the first place.
     
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    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    That led to a myriad forms of disaster back in the 1950s, not least among those the ruination of the moral standing of the USA in Iran. There is absolutely no reason to expect it to work any better now.
     
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