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Trump RE: Kim Jong Un: 'We fell in love' over 'beautiful letters'

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by ecco, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. ecco

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    President Donald Trump on Kim Jong Un: 'We fell in love' over 'beautiful letters'
    Trump, speaking at a rally in West Virginia on Saturday night, said both leaders took tough positions at their June summit.

    "I was really tough and so was he, and we went back and forth," Trump told an adoring crowd of thousands at Wesbanco Arena in Wheeling. "And then we fell in love, OK? No, really, he wrote me beautiful letters, and they’re great letters. We fell in love.”​


    Do you see the "No, really" part? That's when even his Sheeples sat in stunned silence.
     
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    I hope their love child is more beautiful than the parents, a reunited Korea.
     
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    This is when I like to play one of my favourite games. “Imagine Obama had said this”. imagine how many conservative heads would be exploding.


    And as a bonus round, not to be played by the faint hearted, imagine a President Hilary Clinton saying this.
     
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    I suspect they were French Letters:rolleyes:
     
  5. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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    We should not, and cannot, seek the admiration of a tyrant who continues to commit atrocities against their own people. To do so legitimizes their actions and creates an open casting call for others to do the same.
     
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    Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up in a prison psych ward!
     
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    Just imagine the reaction of the Republicans if Obama had expressed his love of Kim and Putin.
     
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    The signs that Trump was a bisexual progressive were seen early on as we can see in the video below. By today's standards it would be called a sexual sexual assault on a transgender person but the advances do not seem uninvited. I am actually surprised that progressives don't support him more but he is white and male.
     
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    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    Color me boggled. Not at the video but who posted it. I had forgotten about that incident.

    All I can write is that he has poor judgement in this area as well as in all others
     
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  10. Jainarayan

    Jainarayan ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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    It wouldn't be the first time (or last time) we've gotten in bed with the devil.
     
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  11. Hubert Farnsworth

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    Theoretically, you're right, but sometimes moral compromises have to be made for the greater good of the world. If the Trump-Kim bromance prevents a nuclear war, I'm all for it.
     
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    Robert Mapplethorpe once said about sex, "there should be three people involved- you, the other person, and the Devil"
     
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  13. Revoltingest

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    Perhaps it's not seeking "admiration", but rather manipulation (ceasing
    hostile words & feelings) with an eye towards peaceful reconciliation.
    If not being done for political purpose, what other explanation would
    there be....bromance with Rocket Man? Nah.
    I don't think Trump is encouraging other countries to behave so badly.
     
  14. ecco

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    The only thing Trump's adoration of Kim has done is make Kim even more loved and respected in NK, and, to a lesser degree, with some parts of the international community. Kim, no more than his father and grandfather, wants, can afford, or would start a war with the West.
     
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    I dunno. If Trump said he had fallen in love with me I think I would feel very tense.

     
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  16. Quetzal

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    This may be the case and I hope you are correct. However, I would like to see the humanitarian issue addressed often. I also agree that I do not think Trump is encouraging other countries. If that is how I came across, I did a poor job. The hypothetical outcome/encouragement would simply be a by-product of the negotiations at base line. If the US is willing to make sacrifices for/with NK, regardless of their current humanitarian issues, what is to stop other tyrannies from picking up that same standard? Again, a hypothetical question with no answer, but worth thinking about.
     
  17. Quetzal

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    I agree, but I would like to see the humanitarian piece enter the negotiations as soon as possible.
     
  18. Revoltingest

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    A great many countries are less than humanitarian.
    If creating more peaceful relationships means tolerating
    their internal woes, then that's worth it. Our being
    hostile doesn't do any good.

    Americastan has tried fixing bad countries.
    This hasn't worked out well enuf to justify it.
     
  19. Quetzal

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    That is easy for us to say because we are not under the rule of such a thing. I am a bleeding heart in this regard, so it is difficult for me to approach this topic without bias.

    Oh come on! Somalia looks grea-... no... Well Iraq-... erm... OH OH what about Vietna-... Korea? No... fine.
     
  20. Revoltingest

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    Sure it's easy.
    I'm taking the purely selfish perspective.
    We have it good here, & I'd like to keep it that way.

    We've tried sanctions against NK.
    If trying peaceful negotiation is wrong, then what should we do?
    1) Invade & impose a new government & culture?
    2) Continue sanctions....which haven't yet worked?

    People in NK are clearly suffering.
    But I argue that options #1 & #2 would only increase the
    overall suffering, particularly to US soldiers & taxpayers.

    We've tried belligerence for decades with Iran.
    How has that worked?
    I think friendliness would be better....& less attacking them.
    I'd rather accept that other countries will do things we find heinous.
    And that should seek their peaceful coexistence most of all.
    It's better than war.
    And of course, we may always advocate for their improving things within.
     
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