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Trump loses the ability to block subpoena

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Riders, May 20, 2019.

  1. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    The opposing party winning back the house in the midterms after a Presidential election is par for the course in U.S. politics.

    Obama got elected in 2008 guess what happened in 2010? 2010 United States House of Representatives elections - Wikipedia the GoP had the largest gain ever and won back the House.

    But anyways it's clear the DNC is desperate to try and use anything they can, because they can't beat Trump on a level playing field. Otherwise they wouldn't be posting about his low golf scores and complaining that he gets 2 scoops of icecream while only offering 1 to guest.:confused:
     
  2. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I regarded this as a socialist kangaroo court. Let them make fools of themselves even more than they already have.

    These people crave control and it gives the world a glimpse of what they're like when they're not in control and being controlled themselves. About time they were knocked down a peg or two from their high horse.

    Everybody knows it's a socialist driven coup attempt at the presidency.
     
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  3. Enoch07

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    This is true.

    The Muller report clearly points to the DNC as an "ends justifies the means" type party. This is never a good philosophy. It is this mindset that leads to tyranny.
     
  4. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    Well, does he get two scoops? There is, after all, at least a little something to be said for good manners.
     
  5. Enoch07

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    Sorry I just can't find anywhere that says bad manners is an impeachable offense.
     
  6. Subduction Zone

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    The appeal is likely to be answered very quickly, with very low odds of it going Trump's way. History and the Constitution is on Congress' side here.
     
  7. Nowhere Man

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    The Mueller report is out. That should have ended it, but no, the socialist Democrats want more which pretty much establishes through their actions that they have an agenda that goes far beyond the report itself.
     
  8. Subduction Zone

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    A heavily redacted report. If it cleared him then why wasn't Congress given the unredacted version? They are the body that is supposed to investigate the President.
     
  9. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    And of course, you are correct. But most of us, really, tend not to invite the irredeemably ill-mannered into our homes, or to the family picnic.

    Perhaps it's an American thing, not to have any sort of behavioural expectations of those elected to your highest offices, those who for better or worse are the faces and exemplars of your people to the rest of the world. Fortunately, I don't live in the US, so I feel quite free to hold my leaders to a slightly higher standard. And to call them on it, when they fail (as our current Prime Minister has been doing of late, and for which I call him out...even though I voted for him.)
     
  10. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    "Committees with responsibilities outside the national security area do not receive intelligence publications at all, nor are they given lists of such publications from which to choose. If such committees request intelligence support, it is ordinarily provided to them through briefings rather than in the form of classified documents."

    III. How Intelligence-Sharing Works at Present — Central Intelligence Agency
     
  11. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    I think this is an important point. It's very easy to say, "this (very redacted) report exonerates the President," but then to insist that the unredacted report not be made available strongly suggests that that same unredacted report would be much less likely to so completely exonerate.

    In which case, is it not important to know about? Is it of no moment whatever that a possible crook might be holding the levers of power in the nation?

    Well, maybe not to some of you. Nixon had his supporters, too, right up to, and long after, his resignation to avoid impeachment.
     
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  12. Enoch07

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    You're right it is an American thing to allow people the freedom to live as they see fit. So long as they are not hurting anyone. Even if it means allowing someone to be rude or offensive. It's certainly better than being forced to adhere to your puritanical beliefs.
     
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    This was not about intelligence, nice try though.
     
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    The secular constitution wins again.

     
  15. Evangelicalhumanist

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    Excuse me, but I don't think I'm quite ready to equate a desire for courteous civil discourse as being exactly equivalent with "puritanical belief." It may, of course, be different where you come from....
     
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    If the judge says they have to they have to.
     
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    Right back at you republicans.
     
  18. Nowhere Man

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    The Mueller report had classified information in it, did it not?
     
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  20. Subduction Zone

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    That is beside the point. Members of Congress have security clearances too.
     
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