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Trump Cult Followers Trying to Divide Democrats

Discussion in 'Liberal Only' started by Sunstone, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. Sunstone

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    Democrats. Please be aware that Trump cult followers are busy trying to stir up anger among Sander's supporters against Biden. Their slimy scheme is to get Sander's supporters so mad at Biden that they refuse to vote for him and thus cause Trump to win the election. Don't help those Trump cult followers destroy America in November by reelecting Trump. Whoever is nominated -- Biden or Sanders -- vote Blue. Unite and vote Blue!
     
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  2. dianaiad

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    oops. was about to write a snide remark, and then realized that this forum is for liberals only. While I am libertarian, I am certainly not liberal in everything. Or much of anything, come to think. Never mind, my apologies, carry on.
     
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    It ought to explain that "liberal" in this context refers to a N American term for being on the political Left.

    In other words, nothing to do with "liberal" as understood generally, or indeed in politics outside N America. Margaret Thatcher was a free market liberal, economically.
     
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  4. columbus

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    I deleted my post too.
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    "Yes, I've seen the various threads, here, with that obvious intent. But I think the attempt is misguided.
     
  6. sun rise

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    Given the mess, lies and egomania exhibited by the current regime in power, regime change is the #1 priority.

    I would have preferred someone else, actually a number of someone elses, but I agree the #1 task is to stay united and return America to the "truth, justice and American way" - the way of honor and trying to make things better
     
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  7. Mestemia

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    um...
    How does one find out if they are a "Liberal" or not?
     
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    Mock Turtle Silent Generation - so don't expect much
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    The whole notion of Sanders supporters defecting en masse to cost Dems the election is a myth. The vast majority of Sanders voters in 2016 voted for Clinton, and if Biden is the nominee they'll do the same. It's the first-time, infrequent, and crossover voters who Dems need to worry about if they run Joe.
     
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    It's hardly surprising.

    It's not even surprising that they are stupid enough to think Sanders supporters are stupid enough to fall for such a scheme.
     
  11. Heyo

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    I'm not sure if I'd be seen as a liberal but here is my analysis from a, let's say, neutral point of view:
    1. There is no need for the Trumpetts to stir anger vs. Biden. There are enough Democrats who have a Bernie-or-bust mentality and propagate that through social media.
    2. Which democrat listens to Trumpetts?
    3. The Trumpetts who try this, miss the point. It isn't and never was about Biden (or Hillary, or ...). It always was about unfairness of the process. If Biden wins fair and square, the Bernie supporters, even many of the Bernie-or-bust crowd, will hold their nose and vote blue. Only if Bernie gets cheated out of the nomination (as in 2016), will they stay home. And then the Dems will have earned their defeat.
     
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    Ok then.
    What am I?
     
  13. Jayhawker Soule

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    It is, however, somewhat surprising that you view "Sanders supporters" as such a monolithic block. :)
     
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    Sure, if I actually viewed things that way. But I don't, so no surprise needed.
     
  15. SomeRandom

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    Wow. I thought this was only a thing on “BreadTube/LeftYube” due to trolling. You guys are hardcore.
    I think I’ve moved left enough as of late to be considered a Liberal in American politics. At least I run in “leftie” circles who aren’t particularly keen on Trump winning, even if they’re not American.
     
  16. SoyLeche

    SoyLeche meh...

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    That seems to be exactly the idea they are trying to foment (whether or not it's true, like in 2016).
     
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    Well, before yesterday they would have had a point. But now it has practically become a two-horse-race and the argument that the dem establishment is going for a contested convention has almost become mute. Warren is the only remaining possible spoiler and at the moment nobody knows if she's progressive or part of the establishment.
    The Trumpetts need a new strategy.
     
  18. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    I am a Liberal -- if only a Canadian one.

    And my response to the OP is -- I don't care who you're mad at, who you love, who you hate.....Just Vote! Every chance you get! Why would you voluntarily allow yourself to be silenced just because you're grumpy you didn't get your way? That's cutting off your nose to spite your face.
     
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    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    You are a Liberal if you believe in:
    • liberty of the individual to enjoy their life as they please
    • consent of the governed (through elections), democracy
    • equality before the law
    • free market and free trade
    • limited (but not non-existent) government, with the power to impose rules
    • individual rights (civil and human), regardless of gender, race, or any other non-elective characteristic
    • capitalism
    • secularism (which includes the right to religious practice)
    • freedom of speech, press and religion
     
  20. Valjean

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    Good tactics, as usual.
    The right -- for all their talk of rugged individualism -- has always been a regimented and compliant bloc. The leadership excels in long term, strategic planning and propaganda.

    The left? The real free thinkers and individualists?
    It's like herding cats.
     
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