Trump commutes sentence of his buddy

[metis]

Yes, we need someone more pure like Obama:

List of people granted executive clemency by Barack Obama - Wikipedia

Or maybe Biden?

Watch Biden Brag About Bribing Ukraine To Fire Investigator Of Son's Biz

Yes, He is the righteous one!!!!

Clemency is not necessarily corruption, but my opinion is that it is way too overused, including by both Obama and Clinton. This power should be highly restricted by a Constitutional amendment, imo, whereas a decision by the appropriate lower federal court and/or the SCOTUS would also be necessary before pardoning or granting clemency.

 

[PureX]

Hey, look! It's raining excuses!

 

[Kenny]

Clemency is not necessarily corruption, but my opinion is that it is way too overused, including by both Obama and Clinton. This power should be highly restricted by a Constitutional amendment, imo, whereas a decision by the appropriate lower federal court and/or the SCOTUS would also be necessary before pardoning or granting clemency.

Agreed!! I just don't like when people look at the logs in one persons eye when all eyes have logs. (and at the expense of not admitting that they all do)

Too much abuse by too many presidents.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Hmmmm.....
Reminds me of the old saw, "The proof is in the pudding".
Instead, "The proof is in the waiting".

Like to place a bet?

 

[Revoltingest]

Like to place a bet?

I'll bet you one frubal that Trump receives no financial remuneration from Stone for the Pardon.

 

[fantome profane]

I'll bet you one frubal that Trump receives no financial remuneration from Stone for the Pardon.

You going to conduct an investigation into Trump’s finances to settle that bet?

 

[Mock Turtle]

I'll bet you one frubal that Trump receives no financial remuneration from Stone for the Pardon.

How about a frubal for Trump being convicted of some offence (committed in the past) after he has left office?

 

[Revoltingest]

You going to conduct an investigation into Trump’s finances to settle that bet?

It's about the waiting...not the research.

 

[Revoltingest]

How about a frubal for Trump being convicted of some offence (committed in the past) after he has left office?

"Some offense" is rather broad.
70% chance it won't happen.
Not good enuf odds to bet...unless it's something
trivial, like a date with @fantome profane at Ihop.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yes, we need someone more pure like Obama:

List of people granted executive clemency by Barack Obama - Wikipedia

Or maybe Biden?

Watch Biden Brag About Bribing Ukraine To Fire Investigator Of Son's Biz

Yes, He is the righteous one!!!!

Basically the whole thing is whoopity do like that hasn't ever happened before in the past.

Trump is just keeping up with political tradition.

 

[metis]

Agreed!! I just don't like when people look at the logs in one persons eye when all eyes have logs. (and at the expense of not admitting that they all do)

But size matters.

 

[Kenny]

But size matters.

But Jesus said the splinter should be taken out first - not the log

 

[metis]

But Jesus said the splinter should be taken out first - not the log

So you were her first. Got it. Probably didn't feel a thing, right?

 

[Revoltingest]

Basically the whole thing is whoopity do like that hasn't ever happened before in the past.

Trump is just keeping up with political tradition.

Aye, it's a big nothingburger...a nontroversy....compared to real issues,
eg, war, economy, plagues. Presidents have long used & abused this
power, but the actual effect upon the country if some bad guy is handed
a get-out-of-jail-free card is nil. Even the pardon Marc Rich purchased
didn't cause real harm. I don't even know anyone else who objected
to it.
Unless it's a 2nd term Prez, we can still voice an objection by voting.
I don't see a big need to limit this presidential power.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Aye, it's a big nothingburger...a nontroversy....compared to real issues,
eg, war, economy, plagues. Presidents have long used & abused this
power, but the actual effect upon the country if some bad guy is handed
a get-out-of-jail-free card is nil. Even the pardon Marc Rich purchased
didn't cause real harm. I don't even know anyone else who objected
to it.
Unless it's a 2nd term Prez, we can still voice an objection by voting.
I don't see a big need to limit this presidential power.

This is said with my tongue in my cheek, but you guys are weird. You fought a war to become independent from the monarchy, and are now slowly building an American version under the guise of a democracy.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Basically the whole thing is whoopity do like that hasn't ever happened before in the past.

Trump is just keeping up with political tradition.

I kept hearing political tradition was bad, and the whole reason for choosing him was that he'd turn tradition on its head...

 

[Revoltingest]

This is said with my tongue in my cheek, but you guys are weird. You fought a war to become independent from the monarchy, and are now slowly building an American version under the guise of a democracy.

Our system has always been this way.
Trump is nothing new in this regard.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Our system has always been this way.
Trump is nothing new in this regard.

That really wasn't aimed at Trump. More the Clinton, Bush, Kennedy names.
But the ability to negate the work of the courts...it's very kinglike.

 

[sun rise]

The burden of proof would be on his accusers.

Prove that Clinton sold pardons then.

 

[Shaul]

“Everybody must get Stoned.” -Bob Dylan