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Trump commutes sentence of his buddy

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by sun rise, Jul 10, 2020.

  1. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    :cool: Knew it would happen anyway...

    And, no there is no corruption. A ridiculous sentence for a process crime and I probably would do it myself regardless of who it was. The investigation that provided the justification for investigating Stone, and had he not been such a sparky little *******... He'd have walked already.
     
  3. Revoltingest

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    Trump is dumb.
    At least Clinton sold pardons to his friends.
     
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    Who can prove that Trump hasn't?
    Tom
     
  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Christine's Uncle Fergus
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    The burden of proof would be on his accusers.
     
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    If it goes to show anything, is that the nutcase conspiracy loons are on both sides of the aisle. :D
     
  7. lewisnotmiller

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    Whether he was dealt with harshly or not, Presidential interference on cases is problematic.
    It undermines confidence in judicial process.

    A key tenet of a justice system is a need for justice to be done, and for justice to be seen to be done. I don't see how this helps at all on either level.

    Further reading for those interested...

    Trump commutes Roger Stone's sentence
     
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  8. lewisnotmiller

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    What's the nutcase conspiracy in this instance?

    I agree with the basic premise, incidentally. Nutcase conspiracy loons do exist on both sides.
     
  9. Secret Chief

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    Presumably Trump is actually just the Order president, rather than the Law & Order president.

    I find it incredible that a president has such a power.
     
  10. Twilight Hue

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    Oh well. Presidents do what they do.
     
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    Does anyone remember the Russian collusion delusion, where the Democrats lied non stop to take out a sitting president. Stone was accused of lying to the liars. This made no sense so Trump had to intercede.
     
  12. Stevicus

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    This will likely cost him some votes. Some believed that Ford's pardoning of Nixon cost him the election of '76.
     
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    At least he didn't commute a traitors sentence like a certain President did.
     
  14. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Asinine, socialist-leaning, puerile filth
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    Don't worry about that. As soon as he is out of office the truth will come out.
     
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    Yet another thing that Trump ought to be impeached for, but that the Democrats won't have the backbone to press on.
     
  16. Revoltingest

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    Hmmmm.....
    Reminds me of the old saw, "The proof is in the pudding".
    Instead, "The proof is in the waiting".
     
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    And you really actually believe this?

    Oh, so now you're the judge and the jury, are ya?
     
  18. KenS

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    Yes, we need someone more pure like Obama:

    List of people granted executive clemency by Barack Obama - Wikipedia

    Or maybe Biden?

    Watch Biden Brag About Bribing Ukraine To Fire Investigator Of Son's Biz

    Yes, He is the righteous one!!!!
     
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    Exactly, because a sitting president is not supposed to weigh in on sentencing, nor is the Attorney General. As it was, Barr wanted a reduction in the sentence and got it.

    Trump and Barr clearly have no respect for the U.S. "rule of law", as we have continually witnessed over the last three years, and even some veteran Republicans feel that our democracy is in serious danger.
     
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    This is only the tip of the iceberg! Prosecutors in the federal districts of Washington DC, New York, Manhattan have been fired by Barr and replaced with friends of the Trump.
     
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