1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Trump bans government scientists from speaking out publicly

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Altfish, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. Altfish

    Altfish Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2014
    Messages:
    8,173
    Ratings:
    +6,371
    Religion:
    Humanist
    • Like Like x 2
    • Informative Informative x 2
  2. Underhill

    Underhill Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2005
    Messages:
    3,717
    Ratings:
    +1,237
    Religion:
    Agnostic
    Bush did some similar things during his administration. The difference is Trump is doing it day one and it's more of a blanket gag order. It is concerning.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  3. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    8,974
    Ratings:
    +7,061
    This is a very bad sign and points to a topic I made a few days ago. I am very nervous with the administration seeking to censor and control the conversation.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  4. Kemosloby

    Kemosloby Well-Known Member
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2016
    Messages:
    5,122
    Ratings:
    +1,230
    Religion:
    Christian
    That's funny they have a photo dramatizing the effects of climate change, except I thought the seas were supposed to rise and flood coastal cities, yet the photo shows a low water line.... Yes, I think Trump should stop the propaganda of Cimate Change.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
  5. habiru

    habiru Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2015
    Messages:
    434
    Ratings:
    +62
    Religion:
    Christian
    Well, he knows what he is doing. Monsanto/ George Soros has created a Genetically modified plant that produces less green-house gases than the conventional plant. And so they are trying to push this issue about the sky is falling in order to put their product out into the market. The world is shifting underneath us, but there is nothing nobody can do about that. It is just a natural process.



     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  6. Deathbydefault

    Deathbydefault Apistevist Asexual Atheist

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2015
    Messages:
    2,364
    Ratings:
    +1,028
    Religion:
    Non/Apatheist
  7. Kuzcotopia

    Kuzcotopia If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2015
    Messages:
    1,869
    Ratings:
    +1,534
    Religion:
    Fat Stack 'o Pancakes
    Frightening.

    I'm really not sure why an agency that producing scientific evidence and projections of future timelines must be so feared and distrusted.

    Why fear information? If you need a massive global conspiracy as a premise for your beliefs, you do not have a credible opinion.

    For you doubters, you know that our own military uses climate change projections to assess threats and determine responses to destabilization, right?
     
    #7 Kuzcotopia, Jan 25, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2017
    • Like Like x 1
  8. ADigitalArtist

    ADigitalArtist Well-Known Member
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,448
    Ratings:
    +7,440
    Religion:
    Irreligious Agnostic Atheistic Apatheist
    • Like Like x 1
  9. Kemosloby

    Kemosloby Well-Known Member
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2016
    Messages:
    5,122
    Ratings:
    +1,230
    Religion:
    Christian
    They changed the meaning of the word to add credibility to "climate change". I'm sure the military only uses "Climate Change" in an alternate meaning, such as weather patterns.
     
  10. Nietzsche

    Nietzsche The Last Prussian
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2010
    Messages:
    6,669
    Ratings:
    +6,910
    Religion:
    Heathen King
    More and more I believe you exist in some kind of alternate reality, and you just have some kind of universe-hopping internet connection.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  11. Akivah

    Akivah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,666
    Ratings:
    +1,789
    Religion:
    Judaism
    Trump said (paraphrased) that he didn't mind his cabinet people from speaking their minds, no matter if it disagreed with his statements. Why is he stopping this department from doing the same thing?
     
    • Like Like x 3
  12. Kemosloby

    Kemosloby Well-Known Member
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2016
    Messages:
    5,122
    Ratings:
    +1,230
    Religion:
    Christian
    Yeah, it's called age, I've been around long enough to know it's all one scam after another.
     
  13. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2013
    Messages:
    28,975
    Ratings:
    +12,244
    Religion:
    Catholic-- liberal & ecumenical
    I hate to drop the F-bomb, but here it goes: ...


    fascism.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. Acim

    Acim Revelation all the time

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    5,513
    Ratings:
    +686
    Given my understanding of modern American science, and the propaganda battles being waged, I rejoice at this news.
     
  15. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2010
    Messages:
    26,290
    Ratings:
    +10,425
    Religion:
    Agnostic
    From the article cited in the OP.

    "The Trump administration’s decision to stop Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) officials and other government staff from speaking out publicly has prompted the country’s leading scientific organisation to warn against “censorship and intimidation”.

    The ban includes the issuing of press releases, blogs, messages on Twitter and Facebook posts, according to information leaked to several media organisations. All media requests must be “screened” by the administration.

    The decision came after the new administration ordered a “temporary suspension” of grants to the EPA, stopping new business activity.

    “As the [American Association for the Advancement of Science] Council stated in 2006: Censorship, intimidation, or other restriction on the freedom of scientists employed or funded by governmental organisations to communicate their unclassified scientific findings and assessments not only to each other but also to policymakers and to the public is inimical to the advance of science and its appropriate application in the policy domain."

    Source: OP link

    Anyone remember Fahrenheit 451?

    [​IMG]


    .
     
    • Like Like x 2
  16. ADigitalArtist

    ADigitalArtist Well-Known Member
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,448
    Ratings:
    +7,440
    Religion:
    Irreligious Agnostic Atheistic Apatheist
    Yeah sure. Modern American science, despite that climate change is recognized by science institutions world over.
    The real propaganda battle is silencing news about it to bolster ties with oil and gas industries, and the increasingly ridiculous climate deniers.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  17. Acim

    Acim Revelation all the time

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    5,513
    Ratings:
    +686
    I think I disagree with everything written here, and yet still, I rejoice at the news presented in this thread. Even while the linked article is laced with said propaganda.
     
  18. ADigitalArtist

    ADigitalArtist Well-Known Member
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,448
    Ratings:
    +7,440
    Religion:
    Irreligious Agnostic Atheistic Apatheist
    Regardless of if you disagree, it is nonetheless true that concern over climate change is not an American phenomenon: Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia
     
    • Like Like x 2
  19. Acim

    Acim Revelation all the time

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2011
    Messages:
    5,513
    Ratings:
    +686
    Good for you for changing the topic. Feel free to rant on this topic you've brought up all you may desire. I still rejoice at the news in this thread and if you espouse things I find questionable and debatable, I'll be sure to note that.
     
  20. ADigitalArtist

    ADigitalArtist Well-Known Member
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,448
    Ratings:
    +7,440
    Religion:
    Irreligious Agnostic Atheistic Apatheist
    Good for you for backpeddling away from your own words because further looking into the topic invalidates the accusations made in your original comment.
     
Loading...