Trump and His Supporters Consider Forming Patriot Party

[Revoltingest]

Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious.

I don't see all of them that way.
I'm just not one of them.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's not something someone should need to announce or prove, anyway.

At times it gives me pleasure.

 

[SigurdReginson]

The fact that the acronym for it would be "P.P." shouldn't be as amusing to me as it is...

Reminds me of a certain story in involving trump and a couple of russian escorts.

 

[icehorse]

Shortly before leaving office, Trump reportedly considered forming a third party out of his supporters, called the Patriot Party.

Some conservatives appears quite supportive of the idea.

‘It’s Got A Great Ring To It’: Conservative Personalities Warm To Trump ‘Patriot Party’ With QAnon Roots

Thoughts? Personally I think it would be political suicide for the Right. But perhaps others see it differently?

Throw the rest of us in the briar patch!

(Oh no! a Patriot party, whatever shall we do?)

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Shortly before leaving office, Trump reportedly considered forming a third party out of his supporters, called the Patriot Party.

Some conservatives appears quite supportive of the idea.

‘It’s Got A Great Ring To It’: Conservative Personalities Warm To Trump ‘Patriot Party’ With QAnon Roots

Thoughts? Personally I think it would be political suicide for the Right. But perhaps others see it differently?

The two party system needs to be destroyed so this is a positive development, if anything comes of it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I do find that I wonder why Trump chose that particular name.

In the 60s and 80s it was a socialist based party/movement.


Patriot Party (1960s–1980s) - Wikipedia

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Shortly before leaving office, Trump reportedly considered forming a third party out of his supporters, called the Patriot Party.

Some conservatives appears quite supportive of the idea.

‘It’s Got A Great Ring To It’: Conservative Personalities Warm To Trump ‘Patriot Party’ With QAnon Roots

Thoughts? Personally I think it would be political suicide for the Right. But perhaps others see it differently?

Out of curiosity, do you think it would also be political suicide for the left to do similar? After this last year it's becoming more plain that more progressives want to split off from the centrist democrats, and Biden is not nearly progressive enough to satisfy that desire. If another progressive candidate comes along a-la Bernie, do you think a split is possible and does it worry you?

Honestly I would like to see multiple splits in multiple parties.

 

[InChrist]

I do find that I wonder why Trump chose that particular name.

In the 60s and 80s it was a socialist based party/movement.


Patriot Party (1960s–1980s) - Wikipedia

Maybe Trump is just one of the many actors in the show to bring the USA down. Not saying I actually know one way or another, but don’t doubt QAnon is.

 

[Left Coast]

Out of curiosity, do you think it would also be political suicide for the left to do similar? After this last year it's becoming more plain that more progressives want to split off from the centrist democrats, and Biden is not nearly progressive enough to satisfy that desire. If another progressive candidate comes along a-la Bernie, do you think a split is possible and does it worry you?

Honestly I would like to see multiple splits in multiple parties.

Yes, I think it would be suicide for the left as well. As much as Joe is not the candidate I would've picked, his admin thus far as been pretty pleasing to me as a leftie who has no particular love of the Democratic Party establishment.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Yes, I think it would be suicide for the left as well. As much as Joe is not the candidate I would've picked, his admin thus far as been pretty pleasing to me as a leftie who has no particular love of the Democratic Party establishment.

It's hard to have realistic expectations for Biden right now when all we really want at this juncture is 'not a facist.' I'm curious to see if this ends up leading to baby steps towards a more progressive Democrat party or further fracturing if Biden pushes back on popular progressive policy.

 

[Left Coast]

It's hard to have realistic expectations for Biden right now when all we really want at this juncture is 'not a facist.' I'm curious to see if this ends up leading to baby steps towards a more progressive Democrat party or further fracturing if Biden pushes back on popular progressive policy.

With a Dem House and a functionally Dem Senate, I'm optimistic. But we'll see.

 

[Estro Felino]

That would be interesting though it shows their lack of pragmatism.
One should work within the framework of what you’re given.
This just seems like a temper tantrum.

True. But one should follow their ideals, no matter of the consequences.

 

[SomeRandom]

True. But one should follow their ideals, no matter of the consequences.

Ideals are fine and dandy. But one should temper practicality over pipe dreams.
By that I mean one should not be afraid to make small concessions for the long run

 

[ADigitalArtist]

With a Dem House and a functionally Dem Senate, I'm optimistic. But we'll see.

Obama had that too, in fairness. I think Biden will be a little less willing to play the 'meet you in the middle' game with 2021 Republicans but there's still a lot of Obama era status quo being bandied about, like the return to Obamacare.

But there's also no denying he's already made some more progressive change even in the first week. So maybe the right staff will expand democrats into including more social democrats instead if just center right ones.

 

[Heyo]

Out of curiosity, do you think it would also be political suicide for the left to do similar? After this last year it's becoming more plain that more progressives want to split off from the centrist democrats, and Biden is not nearly progressive enough to satisfy that desire. If another progressive candidate comes along a-la Bernie, do you think a split is possible and does it worry you?

Honestly I would like to see multiple splits in multiple parties.

If the right splits, so can the left. It just didn't happen yet as the first to make that move is going to lose.

 

[Twilight Hue]

With a Dem House and a functionally Dem Senate, I'm optimistic. But we'll see.

Bear in mind that almost half the nation is not too happy. It would be best advised not to provoke that anger further than it already is.

I'm hoping Biden will follow through with bringing both parties to the table in cooperation rather than antagonizing things to the point it gets even worse.

 

[Heyo]

Bear in mind that almost half the nation is not too happy. It would be best advised not to provoke that anger further than it already is.

I'm hoping Biden will follow through with bringing both parties to the table in cooperation rather than antagonizing things to the point it gets even worse.

If he's smart, he invites the remaining sane ones to the table and, by marginalizing them, help the pubs to get rid of the crazy ones.

 

[Left Coast]

Bear in mind that almost half the nation is not too happy. It would be best advised not to provoke that anger further than it already is.

I'm hoping Biden will follow through with bringing both parties to the table in cooperation rather than antagonizing things to the point it gets even worse.

He seems to be doing just fine, particularly in contrast to Trump:

Biden Viewed Positively, Trump More Negatively After Capitol Riot

There's a fascinating double standard at work here though. Trump supporters couldn't have cared less about bipartisanship while Trump enacted a decidedly conservative agenda in office (which is what they wanted). Yet now that a Dem is in office - oh no no no, Biden needs to be bipartisan! Anything less will divide the nation!

Sorry, y'all don't get it both ways. And no matter how watered down Biden's liberalism becomes in office, you'll still criticize him for being too partisan. As we've already seen on RF, Joe will be criticized by the Right if he steps on a sidewalk crack. So it's a no-win game with appeasing the Right for Dems. Thankfully a majority of American voters see through that.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes, I think it would be suicide for the left as well. As much as Joe is not the candidate I would've picked, his admin thus far as been pretty pleasing to me as a leftie who has no particular love of the Democratic Party establishment.

I am glad to see he got busy right away with covid. Collective bargaining and increased minimum wage for federal workers. Anti-discrimination towards LGBT at work.
It's good to great, but we'll see once he's done doing what should have already been done.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There's a fascinating double standard at work here though. Trump supporters couldn't have cared less about bipartisanship while Trump enacted a decidedly conservative agenda in office (which is what they wanted). Yet now that a Dem is in office - oh no no no, Biden needs to be bipartisan! Anything less will divide the nation!

As Richard Murdoch (R) said, compromise is when Democrats yield to Conservative ideology. And things are now more partisan than ever than when he said that.