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Trump and Hillary score huge wins in New York

Discussion in 'Political Debates' started by Sultan Of Swing, Apr 20, 2016.

  1. metis

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    I think we now know who'll be getting the nominations this summer, as Bernie's not going to prevail and the Pubs cannot now dump Trump without the party committing suicide.
     
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    As I said the 2.7 million lead is made up entirely of states that didn't have caucuses, if you factor in the caucus states as if a similar percentage number of people voted as in the other states, the 2.7 million lead shrinks considerably
     
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    That doesn't contradict my statement at all.
     
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    I agree, but I wonder if the Pubs understand that?
     
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    I am sooo voting for Jill Stein for three reasons:
    1. Hillary is not Bill
    2. Trump will try to sell the U.S. to Mexico the first chance he gets.
    3. I see a Jill Stein bumper sticker every time I step out my door....
     
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    Not bad for Trump considering New York is primarily a Democrat controlled state in the first place.
     
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    In NYS the political scene is a mess.

    NYC dominates everything and very little of what they want translates to the rest of the state. In rural counties, the majority vote republican. So in local races, if you want any say, you have to be registered republican because all decisions are made in the primary. In national elections, the opposite is true. NYC dominates so the state virtually always goes democrat. And this isn't even getting into the thousands of delusional green party people who are completely left out of the primary process.

    I would be surprised if there weren't tens of thousands of people who would have voted for Bernie but couldn't in NY.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean by "voter rules" here? Could you possibly clarify?


    Yes they are because it is the number of delegates which determines who gets the Democratic Party's nomination. The delegates are supposed to vote with their caucus because to do otherwise flies in the face of democracy and renders caucus votes utterly pointless. The Iowan delegates cheated Bernie and gave Hillary a win she didn't deserve because Bernie got a majority of the Democrat caucus in that state.

    That would be like members of the House of Lords having an overriding vote over constituency candidates here - how would that be fair? Your constituency votes for, say, the Labour candidate but the Lord for [insert area you live] decided 'nope, I want a Tory candidate there' and a single vote overwrites millions. That's not democracy.

    Delegates and super-delegates voting against the caucus electorate are telling these people these people they have no voice whatsoever.


    Clinton still doesn't poll as well against Republican candidates as Sanders. Bernie has a better chance of beating the Republicans, if not a chance of winning the Democrat nomination.
     
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