Or those of us with imperfect vision.
(I took the Air Force ROTC exam way back when.
They'd have let me be a navigator, but never a pilot.)
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Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality
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(I took the Air Force ROTC exam way back when.
They'd have let me be a navigator, but never a pilot.)
What reduces the effectiveness of transgendered individuals in a way similar to colorblindness?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Would you want to fly with a color blind transgender pilot?
BTW, my point was that many people are excluded from the military for a number of reasons.
You didn't answer the question. What about being trans reduces effectiveness?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Pre or post?
Either. Not all trans people even want surgery, mind you.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Let's also not forget that both changed their minds. And that it became legal on Obama's watch.
Twas the USSCA which legalized gay marriage, not Obama.
One wonders...
Did they change from what they believed to what they didn't (for political reasons)?
Or from what they didn't believe (but served them politically), to what they did?
Or did they "evolve" with the times to become as progressive as Dick Cheny?
I don't know.
But it's fun to watch.
(I've always been pro-gay marriage. It's common among us God haters.)
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Yes, of course. Obama supported it though, didn't he?
Perhaps their positions evolved over time, like many peoples'.
I addressed that option in an edit.
You know that I'm not finished with a post until a half hour after posting it!
A number of reasons that must be around job capability. Color blindness I can see (ha, pun) tangibly effecting performance, but exclusion of transgender is based on unreasonable exclusion by gender not by merit.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
D.T. having some narcissistic symptoms, him not twittering against it, at least shows it is not on the top of his to "twitter list" ... "I am against"
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
Transgenderism decreases the effectiveness of a combat fighter pilot differently than how colorblindness reduces a combat fighter pilot effectiveness; transgender persons on medical leave for getting gender reassignment therapy or surgery would not be able to do their piloting jobs.
Sounds like a good reason to have a medical leave review board, not bar transgender servicemen. We already review medical and surgical needs on a case by case basis.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Shad
Veteran Member
Effectiveness of the unit matters. The Marines already did a study in 2013 that showed all male units preformed better than mixed units by a wide margin.
Body dysphoria is a mental problem thus they are disqualified due to this mental problem. Just like anorexics are.
Do you realize that you're advocating my position.
What next....will you start collecting antique engines?
I bet if I looked around sufficiently I could find similar 'studies' about outed homosexual people within units.
Body dysphoria isn't a disorder like anorexia. Not all trans have body dysphoria and body dysphoria is not limited to trans individuals.
Like I said, should be evaluated on a case by case basis.
I collect antique woodworking tools. That's about as close to that line as I'm willing to get.
That's still sane, but vulnerable to crossing the line.I collect antique woodworking tools. That's about as close to that line as I'm willing to get.
As soon as you need a 2 axle trailer to haul one tool, you're in goofball territory.