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Trump Admin Policy Screws the Poor. Again.

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Left Coast, Mar 5, 2020.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    I'm very judgemental of others' morality.
    The judging of mine you see is just the tip of the iceberg.
     
  2. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

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    "Go lower"?
     
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  3. BSM1

    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    Oooohhh...you're going to the bad place.....
     
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  4. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

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    ...lower...

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  5. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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  6. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    For the record, there are those of us who think there are better descriptions than "largesse." That smacks too much of virtue signalling.
     
  7. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    I actually like your point on this.

    I've noticed for years that there is a lot of work that could be done by the able-bodied that is simply not done because that work is under the control of unions, and they want more money than is considered worth it. One example in my own city of Toronto, in parks all over this city, warning signs are put up saying "warning: walkways and stairs are not cleared of snow and ice." This is because union workers get paid quite a lot of money for outside work, and the city has determined it simply isn't worthy it.

    But I notice that in many neighbourhoods, kids get out with shovels and earn some extra cash by shoveling the driveways oft those who don't care to, or who can't, through being elderly or disabled. I think that a lot of people in need would be very glad of the work, and would do that work at a fairly minimal rate. And there is a corollary benefit that goes with that -- a whole lot more people would then use those parks in winter to get some healthy exercise -- which tends to lower costs of medical care and so forth.

    But alas, the unions won't allow it...
     
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  8. Revoltingest

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    I guarantee that I was not signalling any virtue.
    My suggestions are about common sense, not caring.
     
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  9. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    As a voter, yes, it's my place because my vote is to a great deal determined by morality. So it's my duty as a free citizen of the USA to exercise my best judgement in choosing who will govern the country.
     
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    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    Uhhhh...that works both ways if we were to take your answer seriously.
     
  11. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    Both ways? And why would you not believe that I'm serious in using ethics and morality as a criteria for fitness in leaders?
     
  12. BSM1

    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    You've sorta shot yourself in the foot with this one. Being that 'ethics and morality' are highly subjective and fluid, anyone can say the exact same thing to support their particular snake oil salesman.
     
  13. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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  14. SoyLeche

    SoyLeche meh...

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    And one would assume they do.

    what other criteria would you suggest?
     
  15. BSM1

    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    Then that makes no one right, and no one wrong. So relying on morals is a totally moot point.
     
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    wandering peacefully Which way to the woods?

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    He wanted to take most of the money for our state heating assistance program for those who need it, in a very cold climate, to pay for the Corona virus endeavor. This does not seem to be a caring or informed in reality, man.
     
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    There may be further problems as a result. Homelessness will likely increase, as will the crime rate. That will lead to more people wanting guns, as well as calls for more police, more prisons, etc.

    The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world. We have more people in prison than China and Russia. (List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia)
     
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  18. SoyLeche

    SoyLeche meh...

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    What other criteria would you suggest?
     
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    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    How about logic and a little common sense? Check your emotions at the door, please.
     
  20. sun rise

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    Wrong. It's subjective and fluid to you, clearly. I know many don't care what someone is like nor what he does but only cares if goodies come.

    But let me spell out what I believe.

    By ethics and morality I mean:
    • Is the person (relatively) honest - I don't expect perfection but I'm looking for people who mostly tell the truth.
    • Is the person a narcissist or at least try to see other people as worthy?
    • Does the person value competence or only loyalty?
    • Is the person a bigot or a bigot enabler?
    • Does the person value the justice system or give a pass (and pardons) to friends?
    • Does the person believe that everyone was created equal as stated in the Declaration of Independence and that everyone has inalienable rights.
    • When the person takes a oath of office, do they take it seriously?
    • When the person takes any official oath, do they ignore it?
    • and so forth
     
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