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True religion
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Elliott
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It is difficult to find any real truth in life that way. One even challenges very obvious things as a result, confuse their rights for their lefts.
Jedster
Well-Known Member
I have never experienced that from most of the Dharmic religions or from Pagans..
I think only the fear-based religions do that( and Lubuvitchers
).
You mean Chabad?I think only the fear-based religions do that( and Lubuvitchers
Jedster
Well-Known Member
yes
While I would agree that the Orthodox do consider themselves the only legitimate halachic Jews, I've not seen Chabadniks wanting to convert everyone to Judaism.
Jedster
Well-Known Member
I was referring to them approaching people on the street(usually Jews) and harassing them to be religious. Orthodox, in general, don't do this.
Oh that. To be fair I never really saw this as a problem; they have the right to do so and they are only wanting other Jews. The whole aim of Chabad, in one regard, is to missionise other Jews. I can kind of understand it, considering the Jewish people are such a small peoplegroup that is rapidly intermarrying, their numbers are going to decline pretty fast. Since halachic Jews don't intermarry, this is a plus for them.
Well, that's just my opinion though.
Jedster
Well-Known Member
I agree they do alot of good works, amongst Jews and non-Jews(in the USA).
Here is an example of what I object to.
The last time I encountered them (in Golders Green), I had 3 of them shouting at me to lay Tephillin . This was after explaining that I don't practice Judaism.
For some people religion makes them happy, so they want to spread that joy in hopes others can experience that joy as well.
Some people want to force it down others throats because it gives them a (false) sense of accomplishment.
That's pretty much all there is to it.
In my case, because my religion is the only true religion (so I believe)! It just is.
Well, I certainly don't go around ramming my religion down people's throats (I'm pretty certain I don't in my life beyond RF, and hope I don't do that on RF!). But insofar as I think my religion is the true religion and all others are less true, I want others to share in that truth - I believe that is a major part of my mission. I also seek allies in the world against my enemies.
Your question reminds me of the story called The Mouse That Roared. A very small country, smaller than Luxembourg, was running out of funds, so a meeting was called and it was decided that the best way to refill the treasury was to invade the USA and surrender. From this they would get reparations and rebuilding funds. So they sent a small squad in to the USA to create a ruckus and pillage until the army came to stop them, but the small squad made the terrible mistake of stealing an experimental nuclear bomb which could blow up the planet. The USA immediately surrendered.
The reason it reminds me of the story is that we often don't know the results of the decisions that we make, and in the case of religious people who decide to say that their religion is the only one it is doubly true. Its an easy boast to make and seemingly harmless when the group is small, but then if that group grows the claim grows, too. Suddenly a harmless claim becomes an experimental bomb that no one intended to steal.
It varies from person to person. Political influences are a major factor.
Jumi
Well-Known Member
They think they will be rewarded for their efforts by their gods, they think they are helping others by converting them or making the world a better place. Sometimes a combination of these.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think it's a need for people to feel that they are on top of things, to be on the right track.
A Muslim is obligated to tell others about Monotheism. otherwise all those people they met will be blaming them on the Day of Resurrection, telling GOD, that person did not convey the message, hoping to shift the blame.
We are not obliged to sit with mockers, the rude or those who are hostile.
We are not obliged to sit with mockers, the rude or those who are hostile.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Who are your enemies and what makes them so?
Those who are the Goddess' enemies - anyone who supports the Demiurge, the creator of this energetic-material universe, i.e. Yahweh, is an enemy of the Goddess (Who is Above the Demiurge). Because I am on the side of the Goddess, and they are not.
I've narrowed it down to ego, pride, and fear.
Grandliseur
Well-Known Member
If I thought I was wrong, I would change. Atheists, and everyone else usually think they are right about their personal beliefs. If someone is convinced that their religion, philosophy, is wrong, they are usually trying to find that which is right. I know of no one who thinks they are wrong, whatever their philosophy of life is.