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Featured Trinity: True or False?

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Moby, Dec 27, 2020.

  1. tigger2

    tigger2 Active Member

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    John 17:21, 22 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
     
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  2. firedragon

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    Doesnt say the Holy Spirit is God.

    Doesnt say the Holy Spirit is God.
     
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  3. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe not. He did not. It would be illogical to say that he did, simply because He called himself a man which He was also.

    I believe all of that is true for the fact that He is God also and it does not negate His statement.

    I believe you can but you can't say it in context of who you are. That context is the one Jesus is using and the context also contains the "I Am" statement as well.

    I believe you have not logically proven that and I consider it blasphemy.

    I believe I have no trouble with that. I can't wash dishes without my right and left hand but my right hand and left hand are not separate entities.
     
  4. Muffled

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    I believe I may be but He needs to keep praying if He wants that to happen more often.
     
  5. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe if you are saying that, then you are saying the Father isn't God. Do you have any evidence that He is not?
     
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    Nope. I never said "Father isn't God".
     
  7. moorea944

    moorea944 Well-Known Member

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    [I believe you have not logically proven that and I consider it blasphemy.]

    The way you answer your posts is very difficult to follow. Your just posting your answers, but we dont know what questions you are referring too.
    But, sadly, because you believe in the trinity, unfortunatly, you will always disagree with people even if they prove themselves correct.....
     
  8. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe then that you are referring to the Paraclete which is often referred to as the Holy Spirit. The Father is Spirit and holy, so the term is more appropriate for Him. The Paraclete is God in believers and that is promised by Jesus in John 14.
     
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    I believe I have never found someone who could prove himself correct when they disbelieve in the Trinity. I have offered many proofs over the years. I had one thread that went over 150 pages and all one of my opponents could do was make false statements and never prove them.
     
  10. firedragon

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    No.
     
  11. moorea944

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    It doesnt matter how many pages you have, if it's false doctrine, it's false doctrine....
     
  12. Muffled

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    i believe that is an illogical response. Your negative response can't reverse the truth.
     
  13. Muffled

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    I believe you can say it is false until Jesus comes and sets you straight but I already have Jesus and that is who says the Trinity is true.
     
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    You said : "I believe then that you are referring to the Paraclete"
    The answer is: "No".
     
  15. JerryMyers

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    LOL...I believe your mind is really muddled up, Muffled. When did Jesus ever say the trinity is true ??
     
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  16. moorea944

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    Why do you feel that Jesus has to be God when the bible says he was like us? Not quite understanding this...... Is someone telling you that Jesus is God? Interesting.........
     
  17. Muffled

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    I believe you don't have a clue what you are talking about. All you seem to be able to say is "no."
     
  18. Muffled

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    I believe I already gave the verses in post #113.
     
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    I believe God tells me that.
     
  20. moorea944

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    But if Jesus is not God, why would God tell you that he is?..... Interesting....
     
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