Trigger warning: Does 100% birth control exist?

[Subduction Zone]

BS
All competent adults can abstain. And abstinence is 100% effective.
But since lots of people don't want to abstain, there's a host other methods that hugely reduce the risk of pregnancy. If a dude wears a condom and his partner is on The Pill, the risk is reduced nearly to zero.

"Abstinence" isn't a policy. It's a Choice. "Abstinence only education" is a policy, one I consider ridiculously ineffective. Why do you keep bringing it up in response to me? I think it's just a strawman you resort to because what I am claiming is true, but doesn't support your agenda.
Tom

Nope, they can't. Humans have a very strong sex drive and most would fail at that eventually. Statistics support my claim. What supports your beliefs?

 

[columbus]

Nope, they can't. Humans have a very strong sex drive and most would fail at that eventually. Statistics support my claim. What supports your beliefs?

Which belief?
That not having potentially fertile sex will result in not creating a baby?
Because that's the main thing I am claiming.
I agree with you about sex ed and PP. But I don't recall you agreeing that abstinence is 100% effective.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

Nope. You need to be a realist. Most people cannot abstain. Abstinence is a pro-abortion policy.

Don't fall into the trap.
You 2 are arguing different meanings of efficacy, ie, a whole
population using it poorly vs the few who use it unfailingly.
You're just too mired down in pragmatism in the real world.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Don't fall into the trap.
You 2 are arguing different meanings of efficacy, ie, a whole
population using it poorly vs the few who use it unfailingly.
You're just too mired down in pragmatism in the real world.

The problem with that is it is a case of circular reasoning. A nonworking fix was offered. Even Catholic priests, a profession where one is supposedly celibate, cannot remain abstinent. How is the average Joe or Jolene supposed to do the same?

 

[Axe Elf]

But it fails far worse than any other method.

Incorrect. No other method of birth control is 100% effective when used.

It may fail to be used more often than other methods, but the method itself, when used, never fails.

 

[Revoltingest]

The problem with that is it is a case of circular reasoning. A nonworking fix was offered. Even Catholic priests, a profession where one is supposedly celibate, cannot remain abstinent. How is the average Joe or Jolene supposed to do the same?

Therein lies the problem....a perfect solution waiting for perfect people.
But it's not so universally useful to real people.
At least it's not as bad as another perfect solution....socialism.

 

[columbus]

A nonworking fix was offered.

Who offered it?
Wasn't it you who changed the subject from birth control to sex ed?
Tom