1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Featured Trend in RF

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Amanaki, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    5,199
    Ratings:
    +2,937
    Religion:
    Cultivator of Buddha Dhamma
    It look like there has become a trend in RF to have threads that want to degenerate religions and spiritual life, is this form not a religious form any more? Somehow it look like the form has become a forum for people to find fault in every religion they can. And make "fun" of those who take their religion seriously.

    And if someone disagree in certain topic then they are bad people?
     
    • Like Like x 5
    • Winner Winner x 1
  2. Sunstone

    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2004
    Messages:
    70,923
    Ratings:
    +29,088
    Religion:
    Erotic Dancing Girls
    RF is one of the few larger religious sites on the net that is not a bubble site where everyone agrees with everyone else. This means that people's views will be criticized. Thus, RF is necessarily for people who can take a little criticism. That is, we can't be both diverse and a bubble site at the same time. If you see anything that you feel crosses the line into a personal attack, then you should report it to the mods.

    I've been on RF for 15 years. I don't see a new trend. It's pretty much the way it's always been.
     
    • Like Like x 10
    • Winner Winner x 9
    • Informative Informative x 4
    • Useful Useful x 1
  3. siti

    siti Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2017
    Messages:
    3,852
    Ratings:
    +2,879
    There seems to me to be a trend for people to post religious or faith-based claims in debate forums and then get upset when people engage in debating them. There are DIR forums for people who want to discuss their own religion or religions they are interested in with like-minded people. Debate forums are not the place to post if one is simply looking for reassurance or confirmation of one's beliefs.
     
    • Like Like x 14
    • Winner Winner x 5
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Useful Useful x 1
  4. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

    Joined:
    May 19, 2019
    Messages:
    3,605
    Ratings:
    +1,742
    Religion:
    Non-realist
    When people ask you to explain or clarify a statement or belief, they are not personally attacking you or disparaging you, when a person doesn't agree with you on a religious, philosophical or political position you are taking they are attacking the position and not you personally. When a person attacks you with ridicule or verbally harasses you then they are personally attacking you. And when that happens, you report them.
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Like Like x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  5. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    5,199
    Ratings:
    +2,937
    Religion:
    Cultivator of Buddha Dhamma
    I am not talking about confirmation of own belief, i have no doubt in my own belief, What i talking about is when someone in discussions or in debate talk trash about religion because some if not all religion has some moral rules that should be followed, and it is the "should" that seem to be a problem, because people do not want to be told what to do if following that religion. or what is expected of the practitioners.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

    Joined:
    May 19, 2019
    Messages:
    3,605
    Ratings:
    +1,742
    Religion:
    Non-realist
    When you expect people to believe your "should" and not criticize it then your "should" is definitely the problem. Not everyone is going to like your "should". Half the problems in the world are caused by "shoulds"
     
    • Winner Winner x 6
  7. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    5,199
    Ratings:
    +2,937
    Religion:
    Cultivator of Buddha Dhamma
    Again it is not this I talking about.
    What I trying to get forth is the constant negativity about how religions do their things, especially from people who do not follow that religion. It looks very much like it is a trend to talk down on beliefs that example say Homosexuality is a sin or that it shows less moral to act out the homosexual part in life.
    But what people seem to not understand, those religious texts that say something like that, is NOT toward atheists who are homosexual, or about people in general who are homosexual, it is meant to say. if you are following example Christianity, it is ok to be homosexual, but one can not practice both being Christian and doing the act of same-gender sex. But if one dare to say this things one get almost harassed for being evil
     
    • Like Like x 2
  8. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    5,199
    Ratings:
    +2,937
    Religion:
    Cultivator of Buddha Dhamma
    Living a spiritual/religious lifestyle does mean there are moral rules that are needed to understand and be followed, otherwise one can not rise inner wisdom.
    It is a constant work on the inner spiritual life, to become without unwholsome thoughts, speech and acts. Living a religious life was not meant to be to do whatever we want, or desire
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

    Joined:
    May 19, 2019
    Messages:
    3,605
    Ratings:
    +1,742
    Religion:
    Non-realist
    When people tell you that they believe you are wrong, they are not personally attacking you. I personally believe that Batman could beat Darth Vader and there are people on this forum who will spend all day telling me I am wrong and they will try to prove it to me. But I would never consider them telling me I am wrong as a personal attack on me.
     
  10. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

    Joined:
    May 19, 2019
    Messages:
    3,605
    Ratings:
    +1,742
    Religion:
    Non-realist
    Then those morals and rules are morals and rules for you. That doesn't mean they are or should be morals and rules for everyone else, people have a right to disagree. This is a forum where such things are discussed and debated.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Sunstone

    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2004
    Messages:
    70,923
    Ratings:
    +29,088
    Religion:
    Erotic Dancing Girls
    In the world today, Amanaki, some people are trying to reshape their religions into something better and more humane than their grandparents had. Other people, like you, are trying to prevent them from creating more humane religions in the name of preserving traditions. That's all fine.

    That's all been going on now for thousands of years -- the struggle between the conservatives like you and the reformers like the people you criticize. It's not RF. It's everywhere.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
  12. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    5,199
    Ratings:
    +2,937
    Religion:
    Cultivator of Buddha Dhamma
    Do you try to sidestep my OP? You do know i dont talk about sci-fi figures.
    And again. I do not talk about someone attacking me personally, they attack religion in it self. But if a person is not religious why bother with what religious people say or do? it is their life to follow a religion. Atheists are not within a religion and would hence not be a part of the religious rules or guidelines. So yes some religious people do wrong too in saying bad about non belivers. But this thread is about why must non belivers "attack" belivers and their religion?
     
  13. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    5,199
    Ratings:
    +2,937
    Religion:
    Cultivator of Buddha Dhamma
    Now we start to come to same view. Religious people can talk about their religion without being afraid of non belivers if non belivers stop accusing belivers that their view is wrong.
    We should not mix the religious rules with those who do not want or can follow them
     
  14. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    5,199
    Ratings:
    +2,937
    Religion:
    Cultivator of Buddha Dhamma
    Then people do not understand religion. you can NOT change a word within a true religion because then it becomes a false religion and can not save any human being. If we change to religion to fit us, then we are doomed, but if we as human beings adapt to the religious practice then we can be saved. Religion is not about what we want, it is only a way to enlighten. and one does not enlighten by changing the way the religion was first given. Not ONE word should be changed. But yes i do know this happen within mostly every religion now.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  15. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

    Joined:
    May 19, 2019
    Messages:
    3,605
    Ratings:
    +1,742
    Religion:
    Non-realist
    Atheist have a voice on this forum too. And given that they are not likely to agree with much of what religious people have to say and it is there right on this forum to disagree and say so in a civil manner and they for the most part do. They aren't attacking, they are disagreeing.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  16. Samana Johann

    Samana Johann Restricted by request

    Joined:
    May 7, 2019
    Messages:
    728
    Ratings:
    +175
    Religion:
    Dhamma-Vinaya
    What one nourishes, had nurished, inwardly, outwardly, that grows, what one deprives from giving into, inwardly, outwardly, dies away for one. All a matter of Upanissaya-paccaya, strong condition causes, of what people, climate, food, places of dwelling are as well.

    Why beings take birth, even in most worse existences and circumstances?

    Ones kamma, onces desire of touch, touched one experiences.
     
    • Useful Useful x 1
  17. AT-AT

    AT-AT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2019
    Messages:
    3,790
    Ratings:
    +2,329
    Religion:
    I finally figured out what direction I should go, when I studied the revelations of the Baha'i faith
    I think this forum is fine. More than fine. It contains the constructive criticism necessary for me to improve, without resorting to personally attacking me. When such a thing is achieved, it's like a dream to those of a more open, free-spirited mind. So from my limited worldview, I really think that members do a good job, and that the staff very very likely does too.

    If anything, this forum has taught me that sometimes you have to put strong notions aside in the pursuit of truth, intellectual honesty, and many other things.
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Like Like x 2
  18. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    5,199
    Ratings:
    +2,937
    Religion:
    Cultivator of Buddha Dhamma
    In a civil manner yes, then I agree to discuss with you. but there have been posts that were not in a good manner, that is what triggered my OP today. And no I am not mad at any specific person in the forum, I am not hurting anyone. I just want more civilized discussions
     
  19. The Reverend Bob

    The Reverend Bob Fart Machine and Beastmaster

    Joined:
    May 19, 2019
    Messages:
    3,605
    Ratings:
    +1,742
    Religion:
    Non-realist
    I like you.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  20. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2014
    Messages:
    36,780
    Ratings:
    +13,764
    Religion:
    Love
    That's an important point.
     
    • Like Like x 1
Loading...