Top 10 Reasons for Civil Marriage Equality

[kevmicsmi]

I haven't heard anything about that. The only thing that comes to mind in regards to the workplace is protections to ensure someone is not fired simply because of their sexual orientation. But most places already have something like that, a nondiscrimination policy - at least the major companies do, but it's not a quota thing.

What about religious organizations, would they be exempt?

 

[Green Gaia]

What about religious organizations, would they be exempt?

Religious organizations can and do whatever they like already - I see no reason that would change because of civil marriage equality.

 

[kevmicsmi]

Religious organizations can and do whatever they like already - I see no reason that would change because of civil marriage equality.

I was talking about your anti discrimination in the workplace post. thx

 

[Green Gaia]

I was talking about your anti discrimination in the workplace post. thx

Those policies are already in place and it doesn't effect religious institutions, why should that change?

 

[kevmicsmi]

Those policies are already in place and it doesn't effect religious institutions, why should that change?

I was just curious your opinion, thank you

 

[pdoel]

I dont understand, are you saying it is good to have renegade judges who make up law instead of interpret it? please explain

I don't think I would consider a judge who is willing to give equal rights to homosexuals by allowing them to marry a "renegade" judge. The constitution says that all men are created equally. That we all deserve the same rights.

If a judge were to HONESTLY interpret the laws of this country, they would have NO choice but to grant gay marriages.

Plain and simple.

 

[dbrowncola]

The Bible clearly states that it is wrong.
GOD wiped out 2 cites because of this behavior.
While it may be politically correct to accept this behavior, it is against all religious beliefs.
America says we all have to right to our own beliefs.
But do the homosexuals have to right to actually put my life in jeopardy?
Let me explain,
The Bible says if you support the people who support the things against GOD, you are as guilty as they are.
THAT MEANS IF YOU SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS OK THAT GOD CONSIDERS YOU A HOMOSEXUAL!
It means that if we allow this, GOD will again wipe us out.
We cannot allow this people!
It is SICK!
It is DERANGED!
I tell you, I know the POPE did not go straight to Heaven, because GOD considers him a Child Molester, because he allowed it in the church.
Read your Bible.
Stand you ground.
We are not second class people.
We are the world.
Only if we stand for GOD.

 

[BUDDY]

The Bible clearly states that it is wrong.
GOD wiped out 2 cites because of this behavior.

I don't think that Lot and Abraham tried to pass a law making it illegal for homosexuals to marry though, did they? And what does your belief in what is right and wrong according to your religion, have to do with a secular law? You are right, God did punish them, but that was God's decision, not man's. He is the one to make the judgement.

While it may be politically correct to accept this behavior, it is against all religious beliefs.

Really? All religious beliefs? I think you mean christianity and some others judeo based religions, don't you?

America says we all have to right to our own beliefs.
But do the homosexuals have to right to actually put my life in jeopardy?
Let me explain,
The Bible says if you support the people who support the things against GOD, you are as guilty as they are.
THAT MEANS IF YOU SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS OK THAT GOD CONSIDERS YOU A HOMOSEXUAL!
It means that if we allow this, GOD will again wipe us out.

First of all, where does the Bible say that?
Second of all, what do you call support? If the constitution says that everyone should have the same rights, and an honest person recognizes that and upholds that in secular government, how is that support for homosexuality? We simply recognize something that is common sense.

We cannot allow this people!
It is SICK!
It is DERANGED!
I tell you, I know the POPE did not go straight to Heaven, because GOD considers him a Child Molester, because he allowed it in the church.
Read your Bible.
Stand you ground.
We are not second class people.
We are the world.
Only if we stand for GOD.

Save the drama for your moma.
Listen, why don't you just concerntrate on the things that you can control. Say the serenity prayer, take a valium, and decide that your religious beliefs are yours to share with others, not yours to force down the throats who do not believe the same as you do.

 

[Aqualung]

Nice post.

To the new guy. BUDDY managed to slip in between us.

 

[dbrowncola]

It seems that you miss the point that GOD has already judged this.
It has nothing to do with me doing the same.
I am not judging, but following my Lords wishes.

 

[dbrowncola]

Thanks
I may be a GOD fearing man but I play your namesake on the guitar.
People don't seen to know the bible and it's wisdom.
I am only planting a seed as my creator asks me to do.

 

[Jaymes]

The Bible clearly states that it is wrong.
GOD wiped out 2 cites because of this behavior.

All of Mass. and the countries that have made gay marriage legal are still mysteriously standing.

While it may be politically correct to accept this behavior, it is against all religious beliefs.

Not mine.

But do the homosexuals have to right to actually put my life in jeopardy?

How am I endangering you? God hasn't struck me down for being with Liz. How is a being that is supposedly so loving going to strike you down for something you're not even responsible for?

THAT MEANS IF YOU SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS OK THAT GOD CONSIDERS YOU A HOMOSEXUAL!

Sounds like God's gotten really daft. That's like saying if you think a C is a passing grade, you automatically get a C on everything.

It is SICK!
It is DERANGED!

What's sick and deranged is this diatribe.

 

[standing_alone]

The Bible clearly states that it is wrong.

That's wonderful. This is supposed to be a secular nation.

GOD wiped out 2 cites because of this behavior.

Good for God. Funny he hasn't wiped out San Francisco yet. Maybe still a little tired after the last temper tantrum?

While it may be politically correct to accept this behavior, it is against all religious beliefs.

Not all religious beliefs. Might want to look further into religion before you make clams like that.

America says we all have to right to our own beliefs.

Yeah, and we also have the right to be protected from other peoples - check out the establishment clause of the first amendment.

But do the homosexuals have to right to actually put my life in jeopardy?

How are homosexuals putting your life in jeapardy?

The Bible says if you support the people who support the things against GOD, you are as guilty as they are.

No one says you have to "support" gay marriage, but your own, personal religious beliefs shouldn't keep two people who love eachother from marrying and receiving the same benefits as others already do.

THAT MEANS IF YOU SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS OK THAT GOD CONSIDERS YOU A HOMOSEXUAL!

Why would God consider something as illogical as that?

It means that if we allow this, GOD will again wipe us out.

Other countries allow same-sex couples to marry. I don't see their nations crumbling to rubble.

We cannot allow this people!
It is SICK!
It is DERANGED!

What is sick and deranged about love?

Read your Bible.
Stand you ground.
We are not second class people.
We are the world.
Only if we stand for GOD.

This statement just kind of scares me.

 

[dbrowncola]

Again
I will say am I new and am still trying to follow this format.
I follow a man who teaches chapter by chapter and verse by verse.
All questions are answered for me.

 

[CaptainXeroid]

... THAT MEANS IF YOU SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS OK THAT GOD CONSIDERS YOU A HOMOSEXUAL!...

This is utterly ridiculous. I'm calling bs because I know you won't be able to prove it.

Let's assume for a moment, though, that your diatribe is valid. None of it refutes the 10 reasons for Civil Marriage Equality in Maize's OP. Please feel free to try again if you have anything substantive.

 

[Aqualung]

Thanks
I may be a GOD fearing man but I play your namesake on the guitar.
People don't seen to know the bible and it's wisdom.
I am only planting a seed as my creator asks me to do.

I play my name sake on the bass. And, I didn't necessarily agree with you. I just thought it was a good post. Brought out some points you don't normally here in these debates.

 

[Jaymes]

Please feel free to try again if you have anything substantive.

Or when he's ready to admit not all religions have a vendetta against homosexuality.

 

[Jaymes]

Brought out some points you don't normally here in these debates.

Bringing out points not normally heard does not make a good post. Valid points make a good post. And I'm not sure I saw a single valid thing in the spiel for why civil marriage shouldn't be extended to lesbian and gay couples.

 

[Aqualung]

Bringing out points not normally heard does not make a good post. Valid points make a good post. And I'm not sure I saw a single valid thing in the spiel for why civil marriage shouldn't be extended to lesbian and gay couples.

Those points were valid. I didn't agree with them, but they were valid points from his stance.

You don't think they're valid because you refuse to see them from his PoV. You are already convinced that there is no reason for one to not vote to legalise gay marriage. But for him, this point is very valid. God destroyed a city because of it, and who knows when he'll do it again? It's self preservation, which is valid for some christians.

 

[Jaymes]

Those points were valid. I didn't agree with them, but they were valid points from his stance.

You don't think they're valid because you refuse to see them from his PoV. You are already convinced that there is no reason for one to not vote to legalise gay marriage. But for him, this point is very valid. God destroyed a city because of it, and who knows when he'll do it again? It's self preservation, which is valid for some christians.

When it comes to logic, this is the definition of valid:

1. Containing premises from which the conclusion may logically be derived: a valid argument.
2. Correctly inferred or deduced from a premise: a valid conclusion.

His diatribe is neither logical nor correctly inferred. It's hateful nonsense.