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To the US, and those in doubt before voting :)

Nimos

Well-Known Member
This is my own little campaign to the US people :D

Since im from Denmark and can obviously not vote in the US election. But I can't help to care about it as many other people around the world.

And watching the first debate between Trump and Biden, it didn't take long before the Trump threw the Socialism card at Biden, which is obviously done to create fear. As many might know Sanders have often talked about the Nordic countries and how we do things, while you at the opposite side have Fox news etc. referring to Denmark as a socialist country.

Anyway, my hope is that people will watch this lecture from our former Prime minister talking about the danish system and what exactly it is, so some of the confusion can be removed. I personally think that it would help a lot of US citizens that might be struggling and help you create a more equal society.


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Im not the greatest fan of Biden, but he can only be better than Trump. So if you are in doubt, it might be worth watching these two video (Despite them being a bit long) and vote with your heart and for a more equal US in the future.
 

Salty Booger

Royal Crown Cola (RC)
Im not the greatest fan of Biden, but he can only be better than Trump.
Biden is a monument to the old politics as usual. That's why he was nominated to run on the Democrat ticket, to preserve the powers that be. They are hoping the hatred for Trump will win Biden the election, That's why he hides in the cellar most the time.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Let me take a wild guess?? You didn't bother to watch one minute of the videos!!
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
Biden is a monument to the old politics as usual. That's why he was nominated to run on the Democrat ticket, to preserve the powers that be. They are hoping the hatred for Trump will win Biden the election, That's why he hides in the cellar most the time.
As I said, i think both candidates are fairly weak. I don't get why the US want people as presidents which have one foot in the grave :D Why not choose one in the late 40 or mid 50, that at least is somewhat up on the beat, both with the elderly but also the youth.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
I believe Obama was in that age bracket; unfortunately the job aged him pretty quickly. He looked to be in his 70's near the end of his second term.
I think the biggest problem with the US system is that it seems more like two teams fighting each other like a football match or something. It doesn't always seem to be the aim of finding the best solution for the citizens or an issue, as much as its about looking good and making your side seem good or better than the other side. Its also the case in Denmark to some degree, but we have so many parties working and making compromises across the board to make things work, as I don't think its as bad here.

At least that is the impression I get looking at the US system, but might be wrong.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
This is my own little campaign to the US people :D

Since im from Denmark and can obviously not vote in the US election. But I can't help to care about it as many other people around the world.

And watching the first debate between Trump and Biden, it didn't take long before the Trump threw the Socialism card at Biden, which is obviously done to create fear. As many might know Sanders have often talked about the Nordic countries and how we do things, while you at the opposite side have Fox news etc. referring to Denmark as a socialist country.

Anyway, my hope is that people will watch this lecture from our former Prime minister talking about the danish system and what exactly it is, so some of the confusion can be removed. I personally think that it would help a lot of US citizens that might be struggling and help you create a more equal society.


.

Im not the greatest fan of Biden, but he can only be better than Trump. So if you are in doubt, it might be worth watching these two video (Despite them being a bit long) and vote with your heart and for a more equal US in the future.

As a civic-minded American and a citizen who cares deeply about his country and the direction it's taking, I do what every responsible voter should do before making their ballot choices: I consult a Ouija board.

Well, no, not really, but I think the problem with our system is that it's basically monopoly of the two major parties. There's no room for other ideas, other schools of thought; it's like the political system is locked in some sort of box it can't get out of.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Im not the greatest fan of Biden, but he can only be better than Trump.
Regrettably, unfortunately, and sadly true. Trump takes "ship of fools" to a whole new level, he's a dumpster fire in Central Valley California, he is a mass murder of Americans due to his grave mishandling of Covid. He is so bad, in every regard (even much of his good stuff didn't actually do that much), that "same ****, different day" is a choir singing as the heavens upon up to bless us with some semblance of sanity complete with basic comprehension of proper human conduct.
And the worse part is, Trump is just a zit that festered and boiled to the top that comes from a much deeper disease of a malignant cancer that has metastasized throughout society.
In the end, at least Biden will match Sweden on their level of a proactive approach towards Covid, unlike Trump who just wanted us all to run around and die, while knowing we would get sick and die.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Biden is a monument to the old politics as usual. That's why he was nominated to run on the Democrat ticket, to preserve the powers that be. They are hoping the hatred for Trump will win Biden the election, That's why he hides in the cellar most the time.
Trump has proven himself a friend of that old swamp he said he'd drain. Trump just puts on a show to shake them up.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
As I always say, Socialism is not a bad word.
I don't see why Americans shouldn't have single payer universal healthcare system (which btw is present in Scandinavia too besides in other European countries).

As an European, @Nimos I guess you should be concerned by geopolitics too.
Here in Europe we are witnessing the undoing of the old EU. After Brexit this has become more and more evident. I just want a POTUS that is on the sides of the European Nations, rather than on the side of the EU (which is banking and finance exlusively, nothing more).
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
As I said, i think both candidates are fairly weak. I don't get why the US want people as presidents which have one foot in the grave :D Why not choose one in the late 40 or mid 50, that at least is somewhat up on the beat, both with the elderly but also the youth.

In fact there was Tulsi Gabbard on the list..if you remember.
I was hoping her beauty and youth would have conquered Americans ' heart ...;)
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
As I always say, Socialism is not a bad word.
I don't see why Americans shouldn't have single payer universal healthcare system (which btw is present in Scandinavia too besides in other European countries).

As an European, @Nimos I guess you should be concerned by geopolitics too.
Here in Europe we are witnessing the undoing of the old EU. After Brexit this has become more and more evident. I just want a POTUS that is on the sides of the European Nations, rather than on the side of the EU (which is banking and finance exlusively, nothing more).
Can you explain this “Brexit” thing for me?
I’m neither European or American. All I heard was the UK was breaking off and it was mostly a “boomer” decision that left millennials and “zoomers” depressed.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Can you explain this “Brexit” thing for me?
I’m neither European or American. All I heard was the UK was breaking off and it was mostly a “boomer” decision that left millennials and “zoomers” depressed.

Basically when the EU was created, it was agreed that it would remain a Union of trade and commercial-financial relations only, and not a supranational entity.
Just think that when I was a law school student there was no "UE law" as compulsory subject to pass. Now there is.
So...I think Britain left because, I guess , the voice of member states was unheard.
I also understand the fact that the net contributors are more than the receivers. But the money is spent on bureaucracy and not on development.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Basically when the EU was created, it was agreed that it would remain a Union of trade and commercial-financial relations only, and not a supranational entity.
Just think that when I was a law school student there was no "UE law" as compulsory subject to pass. Now there is.
So...I think Britain left because, I guess , the voice of member states was unheard.
I also understand the fact that the net contributors are more than the receivers. But the money is spent on bureaucracy and not on development.
I’m afraid most of that went over my feeble head.
So England left because it felt it was not being represented at the “table?”
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I’m afraid most of that went over my feeble head.
So England left because it felt it was not being represented at the “table?”
UK joined in back when there was still the EEC, European Economic Community.
The EU, unlike the EEC, wants to impose itself on the states as for decisions which are better decided at home.
No wonder more countries want subdivisions of the EU (there are already the Nordic Council and the Visegrad Group).
 

Secret Chief

Stiff Member
So England left because it felt it was not being represented at the “table?”

I'm a UK citizen. A full answer to your question asking what is Brexit would be a very long one. Going forward, the "transition period" of leaving the EU ends on December 31st. From then on, rather than being part of the world's largest trading bloc the UK will just be a small declining country desperately trying to get a deal with the US. The EU upholds many standards for its member states on all sorts of issues - human rights, food standards, environmental etc. The UK, like all member states, very much had a "seat at the table."
 
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