To Hebrew experts: did Eve sleep with the Serpent?

[Muffled]

I have to look at the commentators but if I recall, there is a midrashic understanding of the serpent as looking much like a man before the curse, so a dragon wouldn't be most accurate.

I thought the Silurians from Dr who come close:

 

[susanblange]

OK, can you copy over any of the bibliographical information of the print edition?

The word mistranslated as "pierced" in Psalms is "Ka'ari". That word does NOT appear in 27:1 of Isaiah, nor does any version of it. So how are you reading "pierced" into the Isaiah quote?

As to the rest, good luck with that. Meanwhile, let's try to maintain focus on the issue of these precise words.

My dictionary says Adam means this: 1) "of the ground". 2) "taken out of the red earth". It also is taken to mean "man" or "mankind". I don't think we will be able to agree. I trust the KJV and so does God. It is remarkably accurate and you won't be able to convince me otherwise. It is consistent and it may have been influenced by the Illuminati.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

so does God.

Can you provide evidence to support this claim?

It is remarkably accurate

Is that why Jewish, Biblical, Greek, and Hebrew scholars widely disagree?

 

[susanblange]

I have to look at the commentators but if I recall, there is a midrashic understanding of the serpent as looking much like a man before the curse, so a dragon wouldn't be most accurate.

Satan the serpent is also called "...the dragon that is in the sea". Isaiah 27:1. The entrance to Hell is also a sea with very rough, dark waters.

 

[Muffled]

So, by my Strawberry blonde hair I'm an elvish dwarf, and because of my height I'm also part wolf?

The races are very mixed down through the ages. I am wolf on my fathers side. I have the big nose but missed the black hair. I am dwarf on my mothers side. I was blonde as a youth. My mother was blonde and short. I didn't get any of the Atlantean. I am medium height. I have a claim to clan Murray. My wife was Atlantean 5'8 tall for a woman, Edmundson clan. She had the blonde hair of a dwarf and the pointy nose of an elf.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'll just stick with Celtic-Gaelic-Nordic.

 

[stvdv]

Proto Gospel of James, Chapter 13

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What does Joseph mean? Does he mean the serpent was a man and slept with Eve, impregnating her?
What does the word serpent actually mean in Hebrew?

She never "saw" Adams penis maybe, when in Paradise. Not a big leap to call it a snake

 

[susanblange]

Can you provide evidence to support this claim?

Is that why Jewish, Biblical, Greek, and Hebrew scholars widely disagree?

The authority of the KJV is secret Biblical prophecy. It may have been handed down in the oral tradition. The Bible is not difficult to understand. Proverbs 9:10. "...and the knowledge of the holy is understanding". Some things have a dual fulfillment. God is the final authority on the scriptures because he wrote, and/or inspired them. I am a Fundamentalist and I take the scriptures at their plain, literal meaning. There is only one interpretation, and that is God's.

 

[rosends]

My dictionary says Adam means this: 1) "of the ground". 2) "taken out of the red earth". It also is taken to mean "man" or "mankind". I don't think we will be able to agree. I trust the KJV and so does God. It is remarkably accurate and you won't be able to convince me otherwise. It is consistent and it may have been influenced by the Illuminati.

What is the bibliographical info for that dictionary? In Hebrew, the words "min ha'adama" mean "from the ground" (as in Gen 1:9). THE man is "Ha'adam" and "man" is "adam". The Hebrew is remarkably more accurate and you won't convince me otherwise.

 

[rosends]

Satan the serpent is also called "...the dragon that is in the sea". Isaiah 27:1. The entrance to Hell is also a sea with very rough, dark waters.

You are now bringing in the word "tanin" not nachash, and interjecting "Satan" who is not in the verse.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The Bible is not difficult to understand.

Well, at least you're not claiming you have to be a believer to understand. But you didn't actually provide evidence to support your claim. There are numerous translations of the Bibles, including efforts to improve the translation quality, because the KJV really isn't that good. It's like the translators had a couple years of Greek and Hebrew at Uni.

 

[Terry Sampson]

@Desert Snake
@rosends

From "Sefaria" [on-line Jewish sources: The Sefaria Library

 

[rosends]

@Desert Snake
@rosends

From "Sefaria" [on-line Jewish sources: The Sefaria Library

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From Sefaria, you should read the entire radak there
Genesis 3:1

and look at the gemara on Sotah 9b Sotah 9b

 

[Muffled]

I'll just stick with Celtic-Gaelic-Nordic.

MyHeritage says I have Scandinavian, English, Irish/Scottish/Welsh, Iberian Baltic Finnish, and Jewish. It probably is based on what DNA people have in those areas rather on actual racial characteristics.

 

[Muffled]

@Desert Snake
@rosends

From "Sefaria" [on-line Jewish sources: The Sefaria Library

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I believe it is a long stretch to think serpents look like camels.

 

[Fool]

'Now the man knew his wife Eve, and she conceived and bore Cain, and she said, "I have acquired a man with the L-rd."'

'The man' = 'Adam' (lit: man).

so was the man a soothsayer? a prophet?

 

[Fool]

Proto Gospel of James, Chapter 13

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What does Joseph mean? Does he mean the serpent was a man and slept with Eve, impregnating her?
What does the word serpent actually mean in Hebrew?

serpent = nachash, a noun, is derived from nachash, a verb; which means soothsaying, divining, learning by experiencing.


bascially a man, a seer, a prophet.


Symbolism of the Serpent

 

[Estro Felino]

serpent = nachash, a noun, is derived from nachash, a verb; which means soothsaying, divining, learning by experiencing.


bascially a man, a seer, a prophet.


Symbolism of the Serpent

Thank you very much.
Very useful observation.

 

[Terry Sampson]

serpent = nachash, a noun, is derived from nachash, a verb; which means soothsaying, divining, learning by experiencing. bascially a man, a seer, a prophet.

Do you have source for the statement that the noun, nachash meaning serpent, is derived from a verb, nachash, which means soothsaying, divining, learning by experiencing?

 

[rosends]

Ernest Klein's dictionary doesn't connect the two
https://www.sefaria.org/Klein_Dictionary,_נחשׁ?ven=Carta_Jerusalem;_1st_edition,_1987&lang=bi

even though logically, the slyness of the serpent and the dishonesty of a sorcerer seem connected.