To all Creationist/Geocentrist/Flat earthist

[McBell]

If they adhere to the Bible strictly, as you say, then they cannot believe the lies you mention. I have found only one faith that adheres to the bible strictly. If you don't really care what the Bible states, that is your right. But again, the Bible does not teach the earth is flat, the sun revolves around the earth, or that God created the earth in 6 24-hour days.

Problem is that all of that is YOUR personal interpretation of the Bible.
There are in fact some people who believe that the Bible does teach that the earth is flat, the sun revolves around the earth and that god created the the universe in six 24 hour time periods.

Not to mention all the other stuff that it is believed that the Bible teaches, I.E. trinity

 

[Atomist]

If they adhere to the Bible strictly, as you say, then they cannot believe the lies you mention. I have found only one faith that adheres to the bible strictly. If you don't really care what the Bible states, that is your right. But again, the Bible does not teach the earth is flat, the sun revolves around the earth, or that God created the earth in 6 24-hour days.

The people who hold to the bible strictly say it does. Whether it does or not is strictly heresy. Thats why I don't really care what the bible actually say... because there isn't what the bible say "strictly"... since the bible is full of vague things that allude to a lot of different hings.

Actually I have christian friends that would say the earth was created in 6 literal days according to the bible.

 

[Willamena]

Problem is that all of that is YOUR personal interpretation of the Bible.
There are in fact some people who believe that the Bible does teach that the earth is flat, the sun revolves around the earth and that god created the the universe in six 24 hour time periods.

Not to mention all the other stuff that it is believed that the Bible teaches, I.E. trinity

Thing is, that's just THEIR personal interpretation of the Bible.
So it's not really a problem.

 

[Willamena]

It's perfectly reasonable to put religious claims that cross into the realm of empirical evidence to the test.

Sometimes, yes, indeed, if the claim is presented as literally accurate, but that isn't always the case. And since there is no visible difference between the literal and nonliteral claim, it's not always easy to distinguish which is being made.

Some are verified, such as the existence of the cities of Jericho and Troy, etc.

Others are falsified, such as the myth about humans descending from two individuals, a global flood, and the manner in which the earth and the diversity of life were formed.

It isn't a "crutch" to examine things that are perfectly examinable under the scrutiny of science.

Thing is, the narratives such as the flood, the creation, being swallowed by the big fish, etc.,* are generally accepted to be myth because of their nonliteral story and not their literal story. It's the nonliteral story that makes them "myth." To "verify" the literal story is to miss the myth, entirely, rather than falsify it.

*Edit: Oh, and the flat earth.

 

[Atomist]

Thing is, the narratives such as the flood, the creation, being swallowed by the big fish, etc., are generally accepted to be myth because of their nonliteral story and not their literal story. It's the nonliteral story that makes them "myth." To "verify" the literal story is to miss the myth, entirely, rather than falsify it.

... so what if it's "generally" accepted... the literalist say it's literal stories and reject any disproof

 

[Willamena]

... so what if it's "generally" accepted... the literalist say it's literal stories and reject any disproof

Like "might", popularity doesn't make right.

As a flat-earther, I will tell you that the literal doesn't make right, it just makes silly.

 

[rusra02]

Problem is that all of that is YOUR personal interpretation of the Bible.
There are in fact some people who believe that the Bible does teach that the earth is flat, the sun revolves around the earth and that god created the the universe in six 24 hour time periods.

Not to mention all the other stuff that it is believed that the Bible teaches, I.E. trinity

Saying the Bible teaches something it does not teach is not interpretation, it is either deliberate lying or unintentional ignorance. People say, as you point out, that the Bible teaches all sorts of things it does not teach. As the Bible itself says, "Interpretations belong to God". (Genesis 40:8)

 

[rusra02]

The people who hold to the bible strictly say it does. Whether it does or not is strictly heresy. Thats why I don't really care what the bible actually say... because there isn't what the bible say "strictly"... since the bible is full of vague things that allude to a lot of different hings.

Actually I have christian friends that would say the earth was created in 6 literal days according to the bible.

One doesn't find the truth by saying "Oh well, people believe different things so the truth can't be found out". The Bible has been attacked relentlessly for centuries, both by outright persecution and ban, and by attacks against it's teachings. Still, millions deeply appreciate the Bible as the word of God. On the other hand, millions more have only a passing acquaintance with the Bible, and believe all sorts of garbled lies about it. Still others bend and twist the Scriptures to support their own world view or personal agenda. The Bible commends the people of Beroea, who upon hearing a new teaching, carefully investigated. "Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thes·sa·lo·ni′ca, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so. "(Acts 17:11) Their careful examination led many of them to believe and accept the Christian faith. (vs 12).

 

[McBell]

Saying the Bible teaches something it does not teach is not interpretation, it is either deliberate lying or unintentional ignorance. People say, as you point out, that the Bible teaches all sorts of things it does not teach. As the Bible itself says, "Interpretations belong to God". (Genesis 40:8)

Interestingly enough, those who believe that the Bible does in fact teach that the earth is flat can say the exact same thing about your interpretation...