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Three Days and Three Nights

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by rstrats, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. lostwanderingsoul

    lostwanderingsoul Well-Known Member

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    I am not talking about negating anything. Is there any possibility that there could be to rest days or sabbaths or what ever you want to call them in the same week. It might be possible that Jesus did not die on Friday but before some other Sabbath. In fact the Bible says it was a "high day" which sounds like something other than a normal Saturday Sabbath. And it could make room for three full days and nights instead of saying a few hours here counts as a day and a few hours there counts as a night. I think many people do not want to discuss this because it goes against everything they believe about the death of Jesus. But isn't that the reason for a discussion? To examine other ideas they may not agree with yours and decide what really makes sense?
     
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    Yes, of course.


    What difference does it make if it was a full day or not? The issue is that it may well have been three days, including the day of the resurrection.

    I have not given my opinion and, frankly, I really don't have one as far as the specifics are concerned. To me, it's sorta like arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. To some that my be important, and that's all fine & dandy, but to me it's not.
     
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  4. lostwanderingsoul

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    Just seems like it would be nice to know the truth especially since Jesus said that the ONLY proof that He was the Son of God would be the three days and nights in the grave. So I really wonder if it was really three days and nights or just some part of that. Of course different things are important to different people but the truth should be important to everyone.
     
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    If the Jews, in the days of Jesus, held their Passover Sabbath on Thursday, this would make Friday an ordinary day, and the women would have went to the tomb with their spices to prepare the body of Jesus early on Friday morning.

    The women needed to prepare the body with their spices as soon as possible. They couldn't do it on the day that he died because they had not prepared the spices at that time, they couldn't do it on the Most High Sabbath of Passover, nor could they do it on the weekly Sabbath, Sunday morning was their earliest opportunity.

    The Jews divided their day into a 12 hour night followed by a 12 hour day. Jesus said; "A day has 12 hours has it not, so work while the light is with you.

    On the 6th hour of the night of Thursday [Midnight] on the day of PREPARATION TO THE PASSOVER, [See John 19: 14.]when Pilate passed Judgement on Jesus, the Jews would not enter the Gentile praetorium that night on the Day of Preparation to the Passover, as that would have made them ritually unclean and they would not be able to eat the Passover meal on the next evening. See John 18: 28.

    Jesus was nailed to the cross on the third hour of daylight, 9 AM on the day of preparation to the Passover, and he died on the 9th hour 3PM on the day of preparation, and by the time that his brother Joseph and Nicodemus received permission to take his body down, and wrap it in linen etc, the sun was beginning to set and the Jews were preparing to eat their Pascal lambs that had been killed between the two evenings of the Day of Preparation to the Passover.
     
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    This is very interesting as Mark 16:1 says the women bought the spices AFTER the Sabbath had ended. But Luke 23:56 says they prepared the spices and THEN rested on the Sabbath. What if there was a Sabbath on Thursday ( for Passover and then the weekly Sabbath on Saturday? The women went to buy spices on Friday (after the Thursday Sabbath and rested on the Saturday Sabbath. And this allows plenty of time for three full days and nights in the tomb. Jesus said that these three days and nights in the tomb would be the only sign that He was truly the Son of God but everyone wants to make up reasons why it was not really three days and nights butonly part of that.
     
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    So you think that it would have taken the women all day on Friday just to prepare the spices? Well whatever makes you happy, as long as you do not accuse Jesus of being a false prophet.

    But if, as you suggest, Thursday was the Passover Sabbath, then Jesus would have had to die on Wednesday, which is plausible, as nowhere do the scriptures state that Jesus was actually raised on Sunday morning, only that the tomb was empty in the morning, he could possibly have risen as the sunset on the Saturday Sabbath, but did not appear to anyone until Sunday morning.

    And if you are happy with that, then Good for you.
     
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    Not necessarily saying I am happy with it but there seems to be a certain sense to it. All most people want to do is find some way to say that Jesus was NOT really buried for three full days and nights. Instead of trying to prove He was Not buried that long why not look for explanations of how He WAS ? You state your religion as Biblical Believer and I wonder why other people to not also believe what the Bible says instead of what some religious leader or church tells them.
     
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    If Friday was a normal day, the women would have prepared their spices with the utmost speed in order to Prepare the body as soon as possible, and have you ever heard of a city being in the shadow of a heavenly body for three complete hours which was followed by an equal period of daylight.

    What is a day on the North Pole, On Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, if not a period of darkness followed by an equal period of light.
     
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    Well I have never been to the North Pole but if they have monrhs when the sun does not set, I am pretty sure they do not call it one day. It just sounds like if they bought spices after the Sabbath and then rested on the Sabbath it seems like there might have been two Sabbaths. We will probably never know unless we see the Lord in the next life and can ask Him.
     
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    According to Luke 23: 54, It was still the day of preparation to the Passover and evening had not yet descended when the women watched as Jesus was buried, then they returned and prepared spices and ointments. On the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment.
     
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    Sorry to prolong this but I have no problem with them preparing the spices after the burial and then resting. But that does not explain Mark 16:1 which says the spices were purchased "when the Sabbath was past." How could they buy the spices after they had already prepared them. I am sure there is an explanation buy I am having a hard time seeing it. Thanks for taking the time to try to explain some of it to me.
     
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    Please don't be sorry for prolonging the conversation as it has forced me to look deeper into the subject. Luke does reveal that after seeing the body buried on the day of preparation to the Most High Sabbath, the women returned home and prepared the spices before resting on the Sabbath. I will return when the spirit has reconciled, to my satisfaction, the apparent contradiction between Mark 16 and Luke 23: 54
     
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    Thanks. I wish more people would look into this subject.
     
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    Perhaps someone new looking in may know of examples.
     
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    Most people are either too brainwashed or too lazy. It is very clear that there were two sabbaths that week. A sabbath for the Passover on Thursday and the regular weekly sabbath on Saturday. The major religions ( which are under the influence of Satan ) have hid this from people.
     
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    lostwanderingsoul,
    re: " It is very clear that there were two sabbaths that week."

    That would be an issue for a different topic.
     
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    Actually no. The topic here is three days and three nights. The fact that there were two sabbaths allows for the full 72 hours to pass between the burial before the first sabbath and the resurrection after the second sabbath. And that is why peoiple keep eanting to squeeze three days and three nights into Friday sunset to Sunday sunrise. They do not know or do not want to admit the fact of the two sabbaths. Jesus died Wednesday afternoon. The women rested on the Thursday sabbath. Then they bought spices and prepared them on Friday and then rested on the Saturday sabbath. It all makes perfect sense if you do not have a clodef mind and refuse to see the facts.
     
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    He was in the tomb of Arimathea and was being treated by his friends for the injuries inflicted on him on the Cross.

    Regards
     
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    Never heard that before. Any proof or just another nonsense idea from someone with nothing better to do?
     
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