Thoughts?

[Mister Emu]

There is a relation as we are given the answers, so it's more or less "solve for S(shapes), B(bananas), and C(clocks) given this solution," and it's basically just counting what is there and comparing it to the numbers provided. That's what prevents any ambiguities in the solutions.

What relationship is provided between the structure of 3 shapes and the structure of 2, or what is the defined constant value of the clock at 2? We are given answers for pictorial representations and then asked to solve a question with different elements.

 

[shunyadragon]

((2+3)+3)*11
Common sense takes precedence, ; >) BODMAS does not apply. If Rachel Dolezal can be black and Bruce Jenner a woman I can certainly do this math problem in the order it should be done (which is the order it is given) and it be right. Welcome to the age of subjectivity.

If common sense prevails, and of course algebra rules, therefore the brackets you added are not in the original proposed puzzle. The correct answer is 38.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What relationship is provided between the structure of 3 shapes and the structure of 2, or what is the defined constant value of the clock at 2? We are given answers for pictorial representations and then asked to solve a question with different elements.

The solution sets make it clear that each side in the shapes, each hour in the clocks, and each individual banana counts as one, because that's the only way the first three will work out. Thus, given the provided information, we know the last set is 2+3+3x11=38

((2+3)+3)*11
Common sense takes precedence, ; >) BODMAS does not apply. If Rachel Dolezal can be black and Bruce Jenner a woman I can certainly do this math problem in the order it should be done (which is the order it is given) and it be right. Welcome to the age of subjectivity.

Math has no room for subjectivity. It either works, or it doesn't. It's what makes math so great. So much we can even reverse it and go through it backwards and end up with the same numbers ("checking you work" as they call in elementary school). If you take a subjective approach to math in chemistry, physics, electronics, mechanics, or any other field that relies on math to be productive, things are not going to work out. This includes our current order of operations, which have been set for a few centuries now.
And while I know little of Dolezal, it is objective, not subjective, that gender dysphoria exists and if we examined the brain of Jenner you would see the brain of a Catelyn, not a Bruce.
Also, there is no such thing as "common sense."

 

[DavidFirth]

42

Right!

Now what's the question?

 

[Mister Emu]

The solution sets make it clear that each side in the shapes, each hour in the clocks, and each individual banana counts as one

That is an assumption. You are never shown the value of any of the altered pictures. You have no mathematical basis to define them or their relationship to each other.

because that's the only way the first three will work out

No it isn't. What stops each banana from being a power of root2?

 

[shunyadragon]

That is an assumption. You are never shown the value of any of the altered pictures. You have no mathematical basis to define them or their relationship to each other.

The proposed puzzle is straight forward as to the math basis for the result. It is just a little sneaky on the use of the bananas and I originally missed.

No it isn't. What stops each banana from being a power of root2?

There is no math symbol in the formula that would indicate a .power root2. Nothing stops you but if you chose to do this you are creating your own formula

 

[Mister Emu]

There is no math symbol in the formula that would indicate a .power root2.

There is no math, symbol or otherwise, in the any of the equations that indicates anything about the composition of the images as representations of numbers.

Nothing stops you but if you chose to do this you are creating your own formula

The point is that you are too. If you say each banana equals 1 and you add them together, you are creating your own formula to define the bunches of bananas. It is not given.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The solution sets make it clear that each side in the shapes, each hour in the clocks, and each individual banana counts as one, because that's the only way the first three will work out.

No it isn't. What stops each banana from being a power of root2?

Sorry, @Shadow Wolf, but @Mister Emu is correct. So, for example (and with reference to Row 1), I counted the number of geometric figures getting

3F + 3F + 3F = 45 therefore F = 5​

while others counted the number of sides getting

15S + 15S + 15S = 45 therefore S = 1​

Both approaches strike me as reasonable. On the other hand, talk of 'the solution sets make it clear" is simply a claim about what was "clear" to you, which is far different than being specified.

 

[Craig Sedok]

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