Those who believe there is no God live by faith

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

Hi all some questions for consideration for this OP....

1. If one does not believe that there is a God and they have no evidence that there is no God does that mean that God does not exist?

2. If one believes there is no God and cannot prove there is no God then is this belief simply another religion that is based on faith and not evidence?

3. Now for those who do not believe in God and you have no evidence for this belief (faith), does it not worry you that you could be wrong if the scriptures are true?

4. Finally if there is a God obviously not all religions can be correct as many are contradictory to each other. How would one go about finding what is the correct faith? Seems we all live by faith IMO wheather we believe or do not believe in God.

I believe God's judgments are coming to this world to all those who do not believe and follow God's Word according to the scriptures. Can you prove they are not

Thanks for your thoughts...

Subduction Zone · Jan 30, 2020

You really should try to learn the difference between a lack of belief and a belief of nonexistence.

exchemist · Jan 30, 2020

3rdAngel said:
Hi all some questions for consideration for this OP....

1. If one does not believe that there is a God and they have no evidence that there is no God does that mean that God does not exist?

2. If one believes there is no God and cannot prove there is no God then is this belief simply another religion that is based on faith and not evidence?

3. Now for those who do not believe in God and you have no evidence for this belief (faith), does it not worry you that you could be wrong if the scriptures are true?

4. Finally if there is a God obviously not all religions can be correct as many are contradictory to each other. How would one go about finding what is the correct faith? Seems we all live by faith IMO wheather we believe or do not believe in God.

I believe God's judgments are coming to this world to all those who do not believe and follow God's Word according to the scriptures. Can you prove they are not

Thanks for your thoughts...

"Prove me wrong" has been the cry of the crank down the ages. It does not work like that. It is the person making the claim that has to be prepared to justify it.

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

exchemist said:
"Prove me wrong" has been the cry of the crank down the ages. It does not work like that. It is the person making the claim that has to be prepared to justify it.

Not really an athiest or athiesm according to the Oxford dictionary which is the same as many other dictionary definitions is disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. So if someone does not believe in the existence of God or gods is still a belief just the same as someone that believes in God is a belief. Now both do not have evidence for their belief so the only conclusion is that both beliefs are not based on evidence therefore their beliefs are based on faith (no evidence; unproven) IMO.

exchemist · Jan 30, 2020

3rdAngel said:
Not really an athiest or athiesm according to the Oxford dictionary which is the same as many other dictionary definitions is disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. So if someone does not believe in God or gods whatever way you want to spin it, not believing in God is a belief just the same as someone that believes in God is a belief. Now both do not have evidence for their belief so the only conclusion is that both beliefs are not based on evidence therefore their beliefs are based on faith (no evidence; unproven) IMO.

I was addressing your claim: "I believe God's judgments are coming to this world to all those who do not believe and follow God's Word according to the scriptures. Can you prove they are not"

Subduction Zone · Jan 30, 2020

3rdAngel said:
Not really an athiest or athiesm according to the Oxford dictionary which is the same as many other dictionary definitions is disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

So if someone does not believe in God or gods whatever way you want to spin it, not believing in God is a belief just the same as someone that believes in God is a belief.

Now both do not have evidence for their belief so the only conclusion is that both beliefs are not based on evidence therefore their beliefs are based on faith (no evidence; unproven) IMO.

Did you not see the word "or" in that definition?

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

Subduction Zone said:
You really should try to learn the difference between a lack of belief and a belief of nonexistence.

I simply provided the Oxford dictionary's definition of "athiesm" if you do not like it perhaps you need to take it up with them

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

Subduction Zone said:
Did you not see the word "or" in that definition?

Sure as posted earlier they are still beliefs that have no evidence for what they believe therefore faith IMO

Subduction Zone · Jan 30, 2020

3rdAngel said:
I simply provided the Oxford dictionary's definition of "athiesm" if you do not like it perhaps you need to take it up with them

And you did not understand it. Reading comprehension issues again.

Subduction Zone · Jan 30, 2020

3rdAngel said:
Sure as posted earlier they are still beliefs that have no evidence for what they believe therefore faith IMO

Nope, go back and reread the definition. Here is a helpful hint. To understand it break it down into two different sentences. If you have problems I can help.

Nakosis · Jan 30, 2020

3rdAngel said:
Hi all some questions for consideration for this OP....

1. If one does not believe that there is a God and they have no evidence that there is no God does that mean that God does not exist?

2. If one believes there is no God and cannot prove there is no God then is this belief simply another religion that is based on faith and not evidence?

3. Now for those who do not believe in God and you have no evidence for this belief (faith), does it not worry you that you could be wrong if the scriptures are true?

4. Finally if there is a God obviously not all religions can be correct as many are contradictory to each other. How would one go about finding what is the correct faith? Seems we all live by faith IMO wheather we believe or do not believe in God.

I believe God's judgments are coming to this world to all those who do not believe and follow God's Word according to the scriptures. Can you prove they are not

Thanks for your thoughts...

Since I can neither support the existence nor nonexistence of a God I choose not to have a belief about either case. I realize the question is not for me but I wonder how many people actually believe there is no God. Without being able to support it, either belief held is a matter of preference, not fact.

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

Subduction Zone said:
And you did not understand it. Reading comprehension issues again.

How can I not understand it? I simply quoted the dictionary definition of athiesm. What is there do not understand? You have already told me elsewhere you do not beleive in the existence of God did you not?

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

Subduction Zone said:
Nope, go back and reread the definition. Here is a helpful hint. To understand it break it down into two different sentences. If you have problems I can help.

No need to if you do not like the definition perhaps take it up with those who wrote the dictionary's

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

Nakosis said:
Since I can neither support the existence nor nonexistence of a God I choose not to have a belief about either case. I realize the question is not for me but I wonder how many people actually believe there is no God. Without being able to support it, either belief held is a matter of preference, not fact.

Thankyou Nakosis someone who is at least being honest in their view which is pretty much the point of the OP.

Subduction Zone · Jan 30, 2020

3rdAngel said:
How can I not understand it? I simply quoted the dictionary definition of athiesm. What is there do not understand? You have already told me elsewhere you do not beleive in the existence of God did you not?

Don't ask me why you can't understand it. And yes, you quoted it so your inability to understand it is rather amazing.

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

Subduction Zone said:
Don't ask me why you can't understand it. And yes, you quoted it so your inability to understand it is rather amazing.

Ok perhaps you can prove why you think I do not understand it and why you think not believing in God or the existance of God or lack of belief is not a belief?

Subduction Zone · Jan 30, 2020

3rdAngel said:
No need to if you do not like the definition perhaps take it up with those who wrote the dictionary's

There is nothing wrong with the definition. Except that you do not seem to be able to comprehend it.

Subduction Zone · Jan 30, 2020

3rdAngel said:
Ok perhaps you can prove why you think I do not understand it?

Sure, you do not understand how the word "or" is used.

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

Subduction Zone said:
There is nothing wrong with the definition. Except that you do not seem to be able to comprehend it.

See the post above yours... I will wait for you to catch up

3rdAngel · Jan 30, 2020

Subduction Zone said:
Sure, you do not understand how the word "or" is used.

How does this relate to you when you have already told me you do not believe in God or the existence of God? This is a belief is it not?

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