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This is who we are fighting in Afghanistan

kai

kai

ragamuffin
"There are clearly more foreign fighters in the Fata (Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas) than have been there in the past," Adm Mullen was quoted by news agency Associated Press as saying. "There's a clear problem on the border," he added.

BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | US military in Pakistan warning



We are in Pakistan's tribal region of South Waziristan. Our host is the region's top Islamic militant, Baitullah Mehsud.

BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Meeting Pakistan's most feared militant
 
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kai

kai

ragamuffin
kai said:
According to the US military, the number of Taleban attacks in the east of the country has increased by 40% since last year.
BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Militants breached US Afghan base


North West Frontier Province governor Owais Ghani said such actions could make it impossible for the government to keep struggling against militancy

BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Pakistan fears over US air raids
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Al-Qaeda may be considering shifting its focus from Iraq to Afghanistan, the top US commander in Iraq has said

BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Al-Qaeda 'may be shifting focus'
 
kai

kai

ragamuffin
Aid agencies in Afghanistan have warned they may become unable to operate in parts of the country once seen as safe because of the intensifying conflict. A statement on behalf of 100 different non-governmental organisations pointed to a 50% increase in insurgent attacks compared to last year.

BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Afghan unrest sparks aid warning


there needs to be a focus here, our NATO allies need to pull their weight, and this needs some attention.
 
kai

kai

ragamuffin
darkendless said:
Its so bad to see, why do the Taliban fight, for control of a country they cannot govern? I hope they know they're dying with the blood of the innocent on their hands.
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because they have ,they can, and they do govern, the international community doesnt seem to be bothered with Afghanistan,its fast becoming a forgotten war,there is no will to win, and very little understanding of what goes on there.
 
darkendless

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
kai said:
because they have ,they can, and they do govern, the international community doesnt seem to be bothered with Afghanistan,its fast becoming a forgotten war,there is no will to win, and very little understanding of what goes on there.
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That is true. However, what would the population do without international help? They would fall back into dissaray and poverty.
Do you think we should let the middle east deal with the middle east? Are we wasting time, money and lives by resisting the rebels?
 
kai

kai

ragamuffin
darkendless said:
That is true. However, what would the population do without international help? They would fall back into dissaray and poverty.
Do you think we should let the middle east deal with the middle east? Are we wasting time, money and lives by resisting the rebels?
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we are wasting our time by not taking the war to the Taliban and their allies and using the military might we obviously have , our allies are ***** footing around sending troops with non combat caviats and meanwhile the Taliban are gaining ground.
 
sandandfoam

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
kai said:
..meanwhile the Taliban are gaining ground.
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They seem close to gaining the upper hand, I was watching them on BBC news last night, there's a swagger about them.
Russia lost to them with the gloves off, it seems a huge task for Western forces to beat them without getting down and dirty.
 
TashaN

TashaN

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stephenw said:
They seem close to gaining the upper hand, I was watching them on BBC news last night, there's a swagger about them.
Russia lost to them with the gloves off, it seems a huge task for Western forces to beat them without getting down and dirty.
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Oh my friend, the US was behind them against Russia. Don't forget that.
 
kai

kai

ragamuffin
yea there is opposition to the Taliban, the problem lies with the fact that the taliban are mainly Pashtun ,the Pashtun live in an area that spreads over the borders out of Afghanistan and into areas like waziristan where the coalition do not operate, so they regroup with impunity and come and go much as they please. The Taliban invoke such fear into people because they are capable of such violence that tribesman, villagers etc, will aid them when they turn up,

secondly there is so much corruption ingrained into Afghan life that the Afghans trust no one.


just an insight into the kind of people we are talking about here from wiki

Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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TashaN

TashaN

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kai said:
yea there is opposition to the Taliban, the problem lies with the fact that the taliban are mainly Pashtun ,the Pashtun live in an area that spreads over the borders out of Afghanistan and into areas like waziristan where the coalition do not operate, so they regroup with impunity and come and go much as they please. The Taliban invoke such fear into people because they are capable of such violence that tribesman, villagers etc, will aid them when they turn up,

secondly there is so much corruption ingrained into Afghan life that the Afghans trust no one.


just an insight into the kind of people we are talking about here from wiki

Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Opium


The official verdict of the Taliban however was otherwise. Mullah Amir Mohammed Haqqani, the Taliban's top drug official in Nangarhar, said the ban would remain regardless of whether the Taliban received aid or international recognition. "It is our decree that there will be no poppy cultivation. It is banned forever in this country," he said. "Whether we get assistance or not, poppy growing will never be allowed again in our country."[108]

However, with the 2001 US/Northern Alliance expulsion of the Taliban, opium cultivation has increased in the southern provinces liberated from the Taliban control,[110] and by 2005 production was 87% of the world's opium supply,[111] rising to 90% in 2006.[112]

Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now i know why the US have invaded them! :clap

:D
 
TashaN

TashaN

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Premium Member
Also read in the discussion ...

Extremely Biased

The article seems to be extremely one-sided and anti-Taliban, seemingly painting the organisation as evil (or at very least misguided) at every oppotunity. A "Criticism of Ideology" section exists, which is of course fair...yet the closest thing I found to a "Defence of Ideology" section (which this article should have), is an "Explanation of Ideology", which basically merely states that the Taliban are idiots who don't know any better. This article needs to be neutral, we shouldn't be painting the Taliban in a negative light.

Talk:Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

;)
 
kai

kai

ragamuffin
TashaN said:
Opium


The official verdict of the Taliban however was otherwise. Mullah Amir Mohammed Haqqani, the Taliban's top drug official in Nangarhar, said the ban would remain regardless of whether the Taliban received aid or international recognition. "It is our decree that there will be no poppy cultivation. It is banned forever in this country," he said. "Whether we get assistance or not, poppy growing will never be allowed again in our country."[108]

However, with the 2001 US/Northern Alliance expulsion of the Taliban, opium cultivation has increased in the southern provinces liberated from the Taliban control,[110] and by 2005 production was 87% of the world's opium supply,[111] rising to 90% in 2006.[112]

Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now i know why the US have invaded them! :clap

:D
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ah for the good old days my friend when opium was banned --as was television,music, education for women, and ground floor windows were painted over lest women should be seen from the street, glorious public executions and amputations know i know why they were so popular:D

The Taliban — Infoplease.com
 
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kai

kai

ragamuffin
TashaN said:
Also read in the discussion ...

Extremely Biased

The article seems to be extremely one-sided and anti-Taliban, seemingly painting the organisation as evil (or at very least misguided) at every oppotunity. A "Criticism of Ideology" section exists, which is of course fair...yet the closest thing I found to a "Defence of Ideology" section (which this article should have), is an "Explanation of Ideology", which basically merely states that the Taliban are idiots who don't know any better.
This article needs to be neutral, we shouldn't be painting the Taliban in a negative light.
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Talk:Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

;)
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well we cant have that, can we?
 
Yerda

Yerda

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Nothing I've read about Afghanistan has described the Taliban as anything other than vicious thugs.
 
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