Things are going Greeattt! (COP26)

[Nimos]

A huge leak of documents seen by BBC News shows how countries are trying to change a crucial scientific report on how to tackle climate change.

The leak reveals Saudi Arabia, Japan and Australia are among countries asking the UN to play down the need to move rapidly away from fossil fuels.

The leak shows a number of countries and organisations arguing that the world does not need to reduce the use of fossil fuels as quickly as the current draft of the report recommends.

An adviser to the Saudi oil ministry demands "phrases like 'the need for urgent and accelerated mitigation actions at all scales…' should be eliminated from the report".
COP26: Document leak reveals nations lobbying to change key climate report

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UN chief Antonio Guterres said Thursday that the current climate situation was "a one-way ticket for disaster" and stresed the need to "avoid a failure" at the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow.

The 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change, struck at the COP21 summit, called for capping global warming at well below 2C above the pre-industrial level, and ideally closer to 1.5C.

But current UN estimates indicate a "catastrophic" warming of 2.7C is on the cards.

Guterres said the present indications "show a pathway of at least 2,7C heating above pre industrial levels, and that’s obviously a one way ticket for disaster."
UN chief Guterres 'very worried' over possible COP26 failure | Africanews

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Glasgow, Scotland – Commenting on the new draft final decision text published today in Glasgow, Greenpeace International Executive Director Jennifer Morgan said:

“This draft deal is not a plan to solve the climate crisis, it’s an agreement that we’ll all cross our fingers and hope for the best. It’s a polite request that countries maybe, possibly, do more next year. Well that’s not good enough and the negotiators shouldn’t even think about leaving this city until they’ve agreed a deal that meets the moment. Because most assuredly, this one does not.

“We’ve just had a landmark study showing we’re heading for 2.4C of warming. The job of this conference was always to get that number down to 1.5C, but with this text world leaders are punting it to next year. If this is the best they can come up with then it’s no wonder kids today are furious at them.
New COP26 Draft Decision Text - Greenpeace Response

This is going exactly as expected, a lot of fools gathered for the 26th time unable to agree on anything.

 

[Secret Chief]

COP26: Greta Thunberg tells protest that COP26 has been a 'failure'

A huge leak of documents seen by BBC News shows how countries are trying to change a crucial scientific report on how to tackle climate change.

The leak reveals Saudi Arabia, Japan and Australia are among countries asking the UN to play down the need to move rapidly away from fossil fuels.

The leak shows a number of countries and organisations arguing that the world does not need to reduce the use of fossil fuels as quickly as the current draft of the report recommends.

An adviser to the Saudi oil ministry demands "phrases like 'the need for urgent and accelerated mitigation actions at all scales…' should be eliminated from the report".
COP26: Document leak reveals nations lobbying to change key climate report

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UN chief Antonio Guterres said Thursday that the current climate situation was "a one-way ticket for disaster" and stresed the need to "avoid a failure" at the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow.

The 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change, struck at the COP21 summit, called for capping global warming at well below 2C above the pre-industrial level, and ideally closer to 1.5C.

But current UN estimates indicate a "catastrophic" warming of 2.7C is on the cards.

Guterres said the present indications "show a pathway of at least 2,7C heating above pre industrial levels, and that’s obviously a one way ticket for disaster."
UN chief Guterres 'very worried' over possible COP26 failure | Africanews

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Glasgow, Scotland – Commenting on the new draft final decision text published today in Glasgow, Greenpeace International Executive Director Jennifer Morgan said:

“This draft deal is not a plan to solve the climate crisis, it’s an agreement that we’ll all cross our fingers and hope for the best. It’s a polite request that countries maybe, possibly, do more next year. Well that’s not good enough and the negotiators shouldn’t even think about leaving this city until they’ve agreed a deal that meets the moment. Because most assuredly, this one does not.

“We’ve just had a landmark study showing we’re heading for 2.4C of warming. The job of this conference was always to get that number down to 1.5C, but with this text world leaders are punting it to next year. If this is the best they can come up with then it’s no wonder kids today are furious at them.
New COP26 Draft Decision Text - Greenpeace Response

This is going exactly as expected, a lot of fools gathered for the 26th time unable to agree on anything.

As Thunberg said.
- COP26: Greta Thunberg tells protest that COP26 has been a 'failure'

 

[Twilight Hue]

A huge leak of documents seen by BBC News shows how countries are trying to change a crucial scientific report on how to tackle climate change.

The leak reveals Saudi Arabia, Japan and Australia are among countries asking the UN to play down the need to move rapidly away from fossil fuels.

The leak shows a number of countries and organisations arguing that the world does not need to reduce the use of fossil fuels as quickly as the current draft of the report recommends.

An adviser to the Saudi oil ministry demands "phrases like 'the need for urgent and accelerated mitigation actions at all scales…' should be eliminated from the report".
COP26: Document leak reveals nations lobbying to change key climate report

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UN chief Antonio Guterres said Thursday that the current climate situation was "a one-way ticket for disaster" and stresed the need to "avoid a failure" at the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow.

The 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change, struck at the COP21 summit, called for capping global warming at well below 2C above the pre-industrial level, and ideally closer to 1.5C.

But current UN estimates indicate a "catastrophic" warming of 2.7C is on the cards.

Guterres said the present indications "show a pathway of at least 2,7C heating above pre industrial levels, and that’s obviously a one way ticket for disaster."
UN chief Guterres 'very worried' over possible COP26 failure | Africanews

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Glasgow, Scotland – Commenting on the new draft final decision text published today in Glasgow, Greenpeace International Executive Director Jennifer Morgan said:

“This draft deal is not a plan to solve the climate crisis, it’s an agreement that we’ll all cross our fingers and hope for the best. It’s a polite request that countries maybe, possibly, do more next year. Well that’s not good enough and the negotiators shouldn’t even think about leaving this city until they’ve agreed a deal that meets the moment. Because most assuredly, this one does not.

“We’ve just had a landmark study showing we’re heading for 2.4C of warming. The job of this conference was always to get that number down to 1.5C, but with this text world leaders are punting it to next year. If this is the best they can come up with then it’s no wonder kids today are furious at them.
New COP26 Draft Decision Text - Greenpeace Response

This is going exactly as expected, a lot of fools gathered for the 26th time unable to agree on anything.

Do you blame them?

People are pushing underdeveloped technology to replace technology that is far superior and far more reliable.

First develop green technology to be on par or surpass present fossil fuel first. Then I think people can talk about replacing it.

 

[exchemist]

A huge leak of documents seen by BBC News shows how countries are trying to change a crucial scientific report on how to tackle climate change.

The leak reveals Saudi Arabia, Japan and Australia are among countries asking the UN to play down the need to move rapidly away from fossil fuels.

The leak shows a number of countries and organisations arguing that the world does not need to reduce the use of fossil fuels as quickly as the current draft of the report recommends.

An adviser to the Saudi oil ministry demands "phrases like 'the need for urgent and accelerated mitigation actions at all scales…' should be eliminated from the report".
COP26: Document leak reveals nations lobbying to change key climate report

-------------------

UN chief Antonio Guterres said Thursday that the current climate situation was "a one-way ticket for disaster" and stresed the need to "avoid a failure" at the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow.

The 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change, struck at the COP21 summit, called for capping global warming at well below 2C above the pre-industrial level, and ideally closer to 1.5C.

But current UN estimates indicate a "catastrophic" warming of 2.7C is on the cards.

Guterres said the present indications "show a pathway of at least 2,7C heating above pre industrial levels, and that’s obviously a one way ticket for disaster."
UN chief Guterres 'very worried' over possible COP26 failure | Africanews

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Glasgow, Scotland – Commenting on the new draft final decision text published today in Glasgow, Greenpeace International Executive Director Jennifer Morgan said:

“This draft deal is not a plan to solve the climate crisis, it’s an agreement that we’ll all cross our fingers and hope for the best. It’s a polite request that countries maybe, possibly, do more next year. Well that’s not good enough and the negotiators shouldn’t even think about leaving this city until they’ve agreed a deal that meets the moment. Because most assuredly, this one does not.

“We’ve just had a landmark study showing we’re heading for 2.4C of warming. The job of this conference was always to get that number down to 1.5C, but with this text world leaders are punting it to next year. If this is the best they can come up with then it’s no wonder kids today are furious at them.
New COP26 Draft Decision Text - Greenpeace Response

This is going exactly as expected, a lot of fools gathered for the 26th time unable to agree on anything.

I must say I have little time for this lazy cynicism. It gets us nowhere, apart from making us inclined to give up entirely.

At least a lot of senior politicians are trying. It is only to be expected that a lot of self-interest will come to the surface in the negotiations. And people start by asking for things they don't finally get. That is what negotiating is like, as anyone who has done it will be aware. Don't forget also that the reason why many of these politicians are not moving as fast as many of us would like is because of us, their voters! It is we, the voters, who are reluctant to change our lifestyles and give up some of our habitual luxuries. (Just look at the post from @Twilight Hue, for example: there are lots of voters who still think, complacently, they can sit back and wait for the alternatives to all be superior to what they have today, before they need to do anything.) As for central government, that can only embark on costly initiatives by raising taxes, which we have to pay. Part of the deal will also involve giving poor countries money to compensate them from not taking the fossil fuel road to prosperity that the developed world has done. How is that going to go down with your average Trumpie?

This thing is going to cost. That is the tough truth and it is not surprising that a lot of them shy away from confronting it head on.

So what we need to do is push and encourage our politicians (carrot and stick) to give them confidence that they have a lot of their voters behind them if they go for faster change.

 

[exchemist]

Do you blame them?

People are pushing underdeveloped technology to replace technology that is far superior and far more reliable.

First develop green technology to be on par or surpass present fossil fuel first. Then I think people can talk about replacing it.

Not enough time for that, I'm afraid. We have to get going now and optimise as we go along.

 

[Heyo]

Do you blame them?

People are pushing underdeveloped technology to replace technology that is far superior and far more reliable.

First develop green technology to be on par or surpass present fossil fuel first. Then I think people can talk about replacing it.

That is a demand that should have been met 20 years ago. If the countries had invested in research then, we wouldn't need to rush things now. (And the longer we wait, the more expensive and more chaotic it gets.)

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I must say I have little time for this lazy cynicism. It gets us nowhere, apart from making us inclined to give up entirely.

At least a lot of senior politicians are trying. It is only to be expected that a lot of self-interest will come to the surface in the negotiations. And people start by asking for things they don't finally get. That is what negotiating is like, as anyone who has done it will be aware. Don't forget also that the reason why many of these politicians are not moving as fast as many of us would like is because of us, their voters! It is we, the voters, who are reluctant to change our lifestyles and give up some of our habitual luxuries. (Just look at the post from @Twilight Hue, for example: there are lots of voters who still think, complacently, they can sit back and wait for the alternatives to all be superior to what they have today, before they need to do anything.) As for central government, that can only embark on costly initiatives by raising taxes, which we have to pay. Part of the deal will also involve giving poor countries money to compensate them from not taking the fossil fuel road to prosperity that the developed world has done. How is that going to go down with your average Trumpie?

This thing is going to cost. That is the tough truth and it is not surprising that a lot of them shy away from confronting it head on.

So what we need to do is push and encourage our politicians (carrot and stick) to give them confidence that they have a lot of their voters behind them if they go for faster change.

What is important to understand is though it will cost a lot of money. This will be only a tiny fraction of the cost if we do nothing.
Doing nothing is not an option, but solving it will hurt.

 

[Secret Chief]

If the world's leaders lived in the Maldives they'd have it sorted by the weekend.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

If the world's leaders lived in the Maldives they'd have it sorted by the weekend.

perhaps they should all be sent there till they solve it.

 

[exchemist]

What is important to understand is though it will cost a lot of money. This will be only a tiny fraction of the cost if we do nothing.
Doing nothing is not an option, but solving it will hurt.

You are quite right of course. But those costs will be incurred by later generations. A "jam tomorrow" argument is always tough to sell.

 

[Secret Chief]

What is important to understand is though it will cost a lot of money. This will be only a tiny fraction of the cost if we do nothing.
Doing nothing is not an option, but solving it will hurt.

Maybe we could ask the 1% for some of their spare cash.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Can't wait for the young to target all the oldies who obviously have caused this mess - time to put another grannie on the barbie!

 

[Secret Chief]

perhaps they should all be sent there till they solve it.

I'd pay for Johnson's ticket. Unfortunately I can only afford one-way. Still, better than prison.

 

[exchemist]

Maybe we could ask the 1% for some of their spare cash.

That should obviously be part of it, but do not fool yourself that taxing the super-rich is going to provide the cash to solve this issue painlessly for the rest of us. It will not.

 

[Secret Chief]

First

Then

talk

"IMPACTS OF THE CLIMATE CRISIS ARE BEING FELT NOW – AND COULD GET MUCH WORSE.
We know that some people view the climate crisis as a down-the-road problem; something we can deal with later because it’s not really a big deal right now.

Tell that to the millions who labored under the “heat dome” that settled over the US’ Pacific Northwest in late June, the Central American farmers no longer able to make ends meet, or those who lost everything in last year’s Australian wildfires.

Or perhaps anyone who has weathered successive Category 4 hurricanes in recent years."

- The Climate Crisis in 2021: 5 Key Facts to Know

 

[Secret Chief]

That should obviously be part of it, but do not fool yourself that taxing the super-rich is going to provide the cash to solve this issue painlessly for the rest of us. It will not.

I know. You couldn't get it off them at gun point.

 

[ChristineM]

Do you blame them?

People are pushing underdeveloped technology to replace technology that is far superior and far more reliable.

First develop green technology to be on par or surpass present fossil fuel first. Then I think people can talk about replacing it.

In the mean time people are dying (estimated 150000 annually, land and property is being destroy and global warming is increasing past recoverable levels.

Yeah let's wait...

 

[exchemist]

I know. You couldn't get it off them at gun point.

Another attitude that is really not helpful is to associate climate change with left wing politics. That will alienate a lot of the voters who need to be on-board.

 

[Secret Chief]

Another attitude that is really not helpful is to associate climate change with left wing politics. That will alienate a lot of the voters who need to be on-board.

I was expressing a viewpoint, not trying to be "helpful." My viewpoint is capitalism>greed>global warming.

 

[SA Huguenot]

A huge leak of documents seen by BBC News shows how countries are trying to change a crucial scientific report on how to tackle climate change.

The leak reveals Saudi Arabia, Japan and Australia are among countries asking the UN to play down the need to move rapidly away from fossil fuels.

The leak shows a number of countries and organisations arguing that the world does not need to reduce the use of fossil fuels as quickly as the current draft of the report recommends.

An adviser to the Saudi oil ministry demands "phrases like 'the need for urgent and accelerated mitigation actions at all scales…' should be eliminated from the report".
COP26: Document leak reveals nations lobbying to change key climate report

-------------------

UN chief Antonio Guterres said Thursday that the current climate situation was "a one-way ticket for disaster" and stresed the need to "avoid a failure" at the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow.

The 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change, struck at the COP21 summit, called for capping global warming at well below 2C above the pre-industrial level, and ideally closer to 1.5C.

But current UN estimates indicate a "catastrophic" warming of 2.7C is on the cards.

Guterres said the present indications "show a pathway of at least 2,7C heating above pre industrial levels, and that’s obviously a one way ticket for disaster."
UN chief Guterres 'very worried' over possible COP26 failure | Africanews

----------------

Glasgow, Scotland – Commenting on the new draft final decision text published today in Glasgow, Greenpeace International Executive Director Jennifer Morgan said:

“This draft deal is not a plan to solve the climate crisis, it’s an agreement that we’ll all cross our fingers and hope for the best. It’s a polite request that countries maybe, possibly, do more next year. Well that’s not good enough and the negotiators shouldn’t even think about leaving this city until they’ve agreed a deal that meets the moment. Because most assuredly, this one does not.

“We’ve just had a landmark study showing we’re heading for 2.4C of warming. The job of this conference was always to get that number down to 1.5C, but with this text world leaders are punting it to next year. If this is the best they can come up with then it’s no wonder kids today are furious at them.
New COP26 Draft Decision Text - Greenpeace Response

This is going exactly as expected, a lot of fools gathered for the 26th time unable to agree on anything.

Climat change is a big lie!
I remember when I was in my 20's in the 80's how the "Scientists" carried on about the "Ozone depletion" and how the Earth will eventually have super ultraviolet radiation, and how we will succumb by drought and cancer in less than 20 years.
Well, it still did not happen. Actually, it was now discovered that volcanos can do more harm than all man made chemicals can, as well as heal the atmosphere.
“If volcanic halogens, which are commonly present in large quantities in volcanic eruptions, were to partition substantially into the stratosphere — in any greenhouse gas emission scenario, at any point in the future — it would potentially cause severe losses of stratospheric ozone,” said Klobas.
How future volcanic eruptions will impact Earth’s ozone layer
Then the big lie about global warming, and that we would all die before 2030.
Measurements found the Earth actually cooled.

I remember how "Scientists" said in 1991 that if Sadam Hussain were to follow through in setting all the oill wells alight, the Earth will be covered in a cloud of black smoke, how the Northern hemisphere will go into a freezing cold summer, and all our crops will fail, resulting in famminne. How the Southern hemmisphere will have scorching summers and winters, drying all the cultivations and how in 3 years only a few people will survive.
Well, that was a lie too. Satelite pictures showed small straks of smoke over Iraq and Iran. Scientists then realised that the Earth heales itself.

After all these claims, the "Scientists" changed from "Global warming" to "Climate change"!

Well, this is also one huge lie!

The Earth warmed up over the past 4 000 years, and the evidence is showing that North Africa was a savannah, with gigantic lakes, wildlife, and rain. It dried up over the last 3 000 years.
Huge Ice fields, glaciers, and frozen lakes melted in North America. The Sea levels rose by 175 meters over the last 3 000 years (Blue hole Light house reef) due to all these snow melting and filling the oceans.

Naaa!
All I know is that there are 2 versions of science.
One is science itself that is the observed facts, and the other is what Theoretical scientists proposes is fact.
Well, I have learned not to listen to theoretical scientists. They are making up stories, and try to become "Super Stars, such as Tony Fauchi, Miko Kako, Niel de grase Tyson and all these highly educated story tellers.
It takes a real scientist to stick to science, and a bovine manure shooter to tell us... forinstance how we must take the vaccine, but remaining silent about natural immunity.
It takes a Newton to measure the difference of velocity of 2 bodies in motion, and a BS scientist telling us time can stand still if we travel at c.

Just thinking.