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There is nothing in Kalama Sutta that supports Atheists

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by paarsurrey, May 19, 2012.

  1. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

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    Suffering is price for human life; one struggles against suffering all one’s life. All development takes place to alleviate suffering or its permanent shape in death. One prefers life not death. This is its secular part; in the spiritual part sin (agreeing to the call of Mara or Evil one) denotes death and to avoid sin and to do virtue is life in the hereafter.
     
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    Writing on the stupas of the time of Ashoka also mention it.

    Please give some Suttas of Buddha which from the canonical and or non-canonical scriptures that mentions Brahma the Creator with clarity whom Buddha believed in.
     
  3. paarsurrey

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    I understand that Buddha said in Sutta-Nipta ,The Chapter on Going to the Far Shore,in which the goal of conquering death is expressed that Buddha explains that birth and death do not mean anything to those who have overcome their ego thus becoming at one with God.

    I could not locate it ; anybody to help in this respect, please.
     
  4. paarsurrey

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    There is no reality higher than the Creator- one true God.
     
  5. atanu

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    My take. There is no reality higher than the one reality and that creatorship is a role of that reality.
     
  6. paarsurrey

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    I think we are saying the same thing or you find some difference.
     
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    tumbleweed41 Resident Liberal Hippie

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    Not far from here do you need to look!
    Highest existence — what can it avail?
    Here in this present aggregate,
    In your own body overcome the world!

    Buddha - Questions of King Milinda
     
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  8. paarsurrey

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    I could not find it. Full reference, please
     
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    The Questions of King Milinda, Part II: Book VII: The Similes: Chapter 4
     
  10. tumbleweed41

    tumbleweed41 Resident Liberal Hippie

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    I find it surprising that you constantly make claims as to the Buddha's beliefs without a thorough study of all the writings concerning the Buddha.

    Confirmation bias?
     
  11. atanu

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    I think that is true of every one, including me.
     
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    I don't think they match with one another.
     
  13. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    Yeah. I'd put more stake in the second one. The first is attempting to be poetic.
     
  14. paarsurrey

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    There are no writing of Buddha from himself.

    It is not possible to read all the writing by others concerning the Buddha.

    Have you read all of them and remember them all the time?
     
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