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The writing on the doorpost of your house? (Dt 6:6-9)

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by 2ndpillar, Mar 3, 2019.

  1. 2ndpillar

    2ndpillar Well-Known Member

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    "These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise up. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand and they shall be as frontals on your forehead. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates." (Deuteronomy 6:6-9)

    As the men who are sealed against the locust of Revelation 9:4 on their foreheads, which is the "sign on your hand and they shall be as frontals on your forehead", per Deuteronomy 6:6-9 by keeping the 10 commandments "on your heart", but what about the blood (Spirit of God/Revelation) on the lintel, the writing of the 10 commandments "on the doorposts of your house"? Some Jews actually keep this commandment, but wrap the commandments up in a container on their door post, put in such a way no one can diligently assess them. When the locust come, will they pass your house by, if so marked, or will they come on in for dinner? Do the locust have x-ray vision , and don't need to read the writing, or do they break down the door, and eat what is available. Does one keep the Word of God, or do you follow Jewish tradition?
     
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    Its called a Mezusah.
     
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    Lol, won’t matter if the locusts have X-ray vision or not, because locusts can’t read to even know if there are 10 commandments on a piece of paper (door post etc) or ten pieces of scribble.
     
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    Considering the fact that the verse literally says to write these words on the doorpost, I'm pretty sure your question creates a false dichotomy.
    I'm also pretty sure that it's the type of thinking you present in your OP that was responsible for Christian antisemitism throughout the Middle Ages.
    Lastly, Revelations, has nothing to do with the Word of G-d or Jewish tradition, so it seems kind of silly to put them in the same topic.
     
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    Jews touch the Mezuzah as they come and go from the house. Its like a little blessing.. a reminder.

    Revelation was originally a Jewish apocryphal writing.
     
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    Well, not like a blessing, but it is meant to remind us of G-d like you say.

    That's true, but I think we can both agree that not everything written by people who claim to have received Divine inspiration, were actually written from Divine inspiration. Jewish or not.
     
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    Thanks.. I was close,
     
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    And I think it safe to say the every Jew who thinks they are wise, should read Jeremiah 8:7-9.

    Jeremiah 8:9 9The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and trapped. Since they have rejected the word of the LORD, what kind of wisdom do they have?
     
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    Well, as the 10 commandments are supposed to be taught "diligently to your sons" and the writing of the 10 commandments on the door post was part of that, not as a blessing, but as a teaching guide. What use is the teaching guide if it is bundled up out of sight? (Deuteronomy 6:7) As for Logos, the "Words", was the terminology for the 10 commandments. As for the blood of the "Word", Lamb of God, that would refer to the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Revelation, the Law and the prophets. Instead, to ward of their vampires, coming angels of death, they wear the cross idol, based on the ideology of the false gospel of grace/cross. As Passover is coming up, one would be wise to have the "Words"/Spirit of Revelation, the blood of the lamb, on their doorpost, as Israelites had when they were scattered among the nations, per being in Egypt. While the liberal followers of the false prophet Paul, think that men sleeping with men is "love", the Love of God is reflected in keeping the 10 commandments, which read "Thou shall not covet your neighbor's house... nor his manservant....nor his ***/donkey. If you have the 10 commandments covered up, how are you going to read them? And as per Ecclesiastes 12:13, the commandments are for "every person", despite what the supposed "wise" men of the "house of Judah", or the false prophet Paul might say. (Jeremiah 8:9) & (Romans 7:6). They are also pertinent to the "house of Israel", which is "scattered among the nations" (Ezekiel 36:17 & 19).
     
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    You should probably ask a Jewish person about what Mazuzah means instead of lecturing me.
     
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    The question was "The writing on the doorpost of your house? (Dt 6:6-9)". Are you sure you know what "dichotomy" means? As for my remarks, I could have used the Israelite example of the Angel of Death doing a Passover, in Egypt. Being as Passover is coming up, and the nations are gathering against Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:1-3), whereas the "LORD will go forth to battle", one might be well served to "close their doors" (Isaiah 26:20) and write "these words" on their door post, or suffer the "plague" of the "all the peoples who have gone to war with Jerusalem" (Zechariah 14:11-19), whereas their "flesh will rot while they stand on their feet". As for the dichotomy of "many" Jews actually hiding "these words" on your door post, versus actually writing them on your door post, I could see your point. As for the "house of Israel", "scattered among the nations" (Ezekiel 36:17 & 19), they would be better served if they kept the commandments, rather than follow the false prophet Paul, and nail them to a cross, which is imaged in graven images made of wood, silver and gold. (Jeremiah 10:14)

    Isaiah 26:20 20 Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by.

    New American Standard Bible Jeremiah 10:14
    Every man is stupid, devoid of knowledge; Every goldsmith is put to shame by his idols; For his molten images are deceitful, And there is no breath in them.
     
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    A Mazuzah on a door post is a tradition of the Jews. The only Scriptural example would be placed on the forehead, and not on a door post, for which "write them on the doorpost" is required. You might want to actually read the Scripture, which I had posted with the original post. You seem to pass yourself off as an academic, but seem to lack basic reading skills. I expect reading comprehension is not a requirement for the present academic system. The Jewish tradition has loads of requirements for your "mezuzah", none of which are Scriptural with respect to a doorpost. You are confusing Scripture with the Talmud, which is apparently the lying pen of the scribes. (Jeremiah 8:6-9). You have your lying scribes, and the Jews have theirs, according to Jeremiah 8:8. When the "Ephrain" and "Judah" "acknowledge their guilt" (Hosea 5:15), during the day of "distress"/"Jacob's distress: (Jeremiah 30:7) & (Jeremiah 16:19) the nations/Gentiles, will confessing "our fathers have inherited nothing but falsehood" . As "Judah" and "Jerusalem" have been "restored" (Joel 3:1), the "valley of judgment" for the nations (Joel 3:2), is at hand. It will start with the "capture" of "Jerusalem" (Zechariah 14:1-3). The supposed Mahdi Obama gave Iran enough cash to make them think they can pull it off. I hope you have acquired a taste for locust.

    Jeremiah 6: "You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates."
     
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    I don't care about your "intellect".. There is a Mazuzah on my door and I think its nice.
     
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    A Mazuzah would be in line with the "lying pen of the scribes", the Talmud, which makes a lie out of the law (Jeremiah 8:8). Reading the law is not tied to the "intellect" or the lack of it. It has to do with the "light" of the testimony of Yeshua shining on the Law and the prophets, something you have apparently nailed to the cross (Colossians 2:14) per your false prophet Paul. The mezuzah on your door post has nothing to do with what the law actually says. As for your "mezuzah" it would pertain to " You shall bind them as a sign on your hand and they shall be as frontals on your forehead". The key word is they "shall be as fontals on your forehead". You do not have fontals on your forehead or on your hand. They are to be "on your heart", as is stated in regard to the "house of Judah" and the "house of Israel" in Jeremiah 31:31-33. Difficult to dwell on "them", if you have them covered up, and not able to be read. Personally, I have a small readable copy on my doorpost, and a large one over my desk. How are you teaching them "diligently to your sons" if they are covered up?

    "These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise up. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand and they shall be as frontals on your forehead. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates." (Deuteronomy 6:6-9)
     
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