The world won't let us kill 2 millions people.

[Godobeyer]

How do you arrive at that?

From the crimes against humanity in Gaza, and West Bank. and apartheid regime.

I. Know you don't recieved the full images.
Jusr two days ago israel killed 100 in mosque.
They collect the piece of meat, bodies by weight, every 70 kg is one person

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

From the crimes against humanity in Gaza, and West Bank. and apartheid regime.

I. Know you don't recieved the full images.
Jusr two days ago israel killed 100 in mosque.
They collect the piece of meat, bodies by weight, every 70 kg is one person

Well, I don't agree. Do you know how many deaths Nazi-Germany caused?

 

[Godobeyer]

Well, I don't agree. Do you know how many deaths Nazi-Germany caused?

War 2 about, 60 millions.
Most of them russians.

I find a link about massacre mosque two days ago.

The Fajr massacre: Every 70 kg bag of human remains is considered a martyr

The bodies of Palestinians killed in the latest Israeli massacre in Gaza were destroyed so far beyond recognition that doctors have only been able to give grieving families an anonymous bag of human remains to bury.

mondoweiss.net

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

War 2 about, 60 millions.
Most of them russians.

I find a link about massacre mosque two days ago.

The Fajr massacre: Every 70 kg bag of human remains is considered a martyr

The bodies of Palestinians killed in the latest Israeli massacre in Gaza were destroyed so far beyond recognition that doctors have only been able to give grieving families an anonymous bag of human remains to bury.

mondoweiss.net

Well, don't bother for my sake. I am going to ignore you for now.

 

[Godobeyer]

Well, don't bother for my sake. I am going to ignore you for now.

Sorry for not please your arrogance

 

[Eliana]

As I understand,for your opinion,correct me if me wrong, so it's ok for you that a country claim democracy to kill people because they live in muslim regime, doctorship.

I specifically stated the opposite, you sub-literate, antisemitic *******. I despise Islam but that does not mean I support any form of violence or murder. You know, the opposite attitude of the majority of Muslims towards Jews, Christians and everyone else.

I never heard about this lies before.
I am Algerian, if true i would condemn this actd.

Yes hate is exist in Muslim world towrad jews,that's generalized,not accepted,
But not because the religious issues, because the crimes and oppression of Israel toward Palestinians.

We consider Israel similar to Nazi germany.
Same ideology, supreme race and religion

I don't care what you may or may not have heard. Islamic countries are quite notorious for their holocaust denial and your inability to do your own research is of no concern to me. Turkey denies the Armenian genocide, Japan still denies the Nanjing massacre and other war crimes. That your country doesn't teach or denies it's own is utterly unsurprising to me.

My grandfather is a holocaust survivor who is in his 90's and still has the scars and physical ailments that resulted from the nazi medical experiments he survived. I'm not going to tolerate you calling Jews Nazi's or any other vile holocaust denial garbage. If anything Muslims like yourself make me reassess whether I should be against turning Gaza into a parking lot.

 

[Ebionite]

I despise Islam but that does not mean I support any form of violence or murder.

Muhammad as the seal of the prophets was endorsed by Isaiah's reference to the sealed book and the illiterate/unlearned man, since according to the story of the cave of Hirah, Muhammad was pressed like a document is pressed when it is sealed. This is meaningful in the context of the phrase "people of the book", who are commanded by the Tanak and the Quran not to kill unlawfully.

 

[Eliana]

Muhammad as the seal of the prophets was endorsed by Isaiah's reference to the sealed book and the illiterate/unlearned man, since according to the story of the cave of Hirah, Muhammad was pressed like a document is pressed when it is sealed. This is meaningful in the context of the phrase "people of the book", who are commanded by the Tanak and the Quran not to kill unlawfully.

Isaiah 29 has nothing to do with Islam or Muhammad and everything to do with Hashem's judgement... unless you are including Muhammad as one of the false prophets G-d speaks of.

1. G-d said the Torah is binding and eternal.
2. He said that the world would end before a single letter would be altered.
3. HaShem said his covenants and promises are forever and unalterable.
4. G-d said the Torah was final. He did not say "to be continued" or "New edition/addition to come"

No one... Christian, Muslim or otherwise will ever convince a believing Jew that HaShem has reversed himself, because this would be a contradiction of G-d's stated nature and make him a liar.

 

[metis]

Muhammad as the seal of the prophets was endorsed by Isaiah's reference to the sealed book and the illiterate/unlearned man, since according to the story of the cave of Hirah, Muhammad was pressed like a document is pressed when it is sealed. This is meaningful in the context of the phrase "people of the book", who are commanded by the Tanak and the Quran not to kill unlawfully.

That's not logical as Mohammed didn't exist during the time of Isaiah but hundreds of years later.

 

[Ebionite]

Isaiah 29 has nothing to do with Islam or Muhammad

It is related to Muhammad because Muhammad was illiterate/unlearned, a book was delivered to him, he was told to read the book, and he protested that he was illiterate.

And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which [men] deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it [is] sealed:
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Isaiah 29:11-12

An Angel came to him and asked him to read. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) replied, "I do not know how to read." The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "Then the Angel held me (forcibly) and pressed me so hard that I felt distressed. Then he released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he held me again and pressed me for the second time till I felt distressed. He then released me and asked me to read, but again I replied. 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he held me for the third time and pressed me till I got distressed, and then he released me and said, 'Read, in the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists), has created man out of a clot, Read!

Sahih al-Bukhari 4953 - Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh)) - كتاب التفسير - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

 

[Ebionite]

That's not logical as Mohammed didn't exist during the time of Isaiah but hundreds of years later.

It's logical because prophetic texts are often about events that happen in the future.

 

[Eliana]

It is related to Muhammad because Muhammad was illiterate/unlearned, a book was delivered to him, he was told to read the book, and he protested that he was illiterate.

And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which [men] deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it [is] sealed:
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Isaiah 29:11-12

An Angel came to him and asked him to read. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) replied, "I do not know how to read." The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "Then the Angel held me (forcibly) and pressed me so hard that I felt distressed. Then he released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he held me again and pressed me for the second time till I felt distressed. He then released me and asked me to read, but again I replied. 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he held me for the third time and pressed me till I got distressed, and then he released me and said, 'Read, in the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists), has created man out of a clot, Read!

Sahih al-Bukhari 4953 - Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh)) - كتاب التفسير - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

Dude, not even the best scientific minds at NASA could come up with a number small enough to represent how little I care what the Quran says.

 

[Godobeyer]

I specifically stated the opposite, you sub-literate, antisemitic *******. I despise Islam but that does not mean I support any form of violence or murder. You know, the opposite attitude of the majority of Muslims towards Jews, Christians and everyone else.



I don't care what you may or may not have heard. Islamic countries are quite notorious for their holocaust denial and your inability to do your own research is of no concern to me. Turkey denies the Armenian genocide, Japan still denies the Nanjing massacre and other war crimes. That your country doesn't teach or denies it's own is utterly unsurprising to me.

My grandfather is a holocaust survivor who is in his 90's and still has the scars and physical ailments that resulted from the nazi medical experiments he survived. I'm not going to tolerate you calling Jews Nazi's or any other vile holocaust denial garbage. If anything Muslims like yourself make me reassess whether I should be against turning Gaza into a parking lot.

Walah, seriously I don't understand your point about brings holocaust,and your grandfather survival,and how bad christian and muslim with Jews in past.
in discussion about Israel crimes now ?
Edited:
Is about revenge then?

 

[Godobeyer]

Isaiah 29 has nothing to do with Islam or Muhammad and everything to do with Hashem's judgement... unless you are including Muhammad as one of the false prophets G-d speaks of.

1. G-d said the Torah is binding and eternal.
2. He said that the world would end before a single letter would be altered.
3. HaShem said his covenants and promises are forever and unalterable.
4. G-d said the Torah was final. He did not say "to be continued" or "New edition/addition to come"

No one... Christian, Muslim or otherwise will ever convince a believing Jew that HaShem has reversed himself, because this would be a contradiction of G-d's stated nature and make him a liar.

In our view, God sent most of Prophets to jews. Not in favor.
Because His message always corrupted by human hand.

Allah said in Quran،

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were.​

He knows what He was talking to.
To people consider others as human animals.

 

[Godobeyer]

unless you are including Muhammad as one of the false prophets G-d speaks of.

Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) not false prophet, it's just sent to human being not specific to Jews , as usual.
He called for ONE creator,humans soul are all same,unlike your zionist beliefs which consider non-Jews as human animals .

Whatever back to subject if your relgion/G-d accept what Israel did to Paletinians , damn to that evil beliefs.

Whatever there Jews had human sense ,are ashamfull about Israel .

 

[Eliana]

Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) not false prophet...

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Your inability to understand what I wrote initially on the subject of Gaza is either due to your lack of literacy in English, or your pathological stupidity.

In either case I don't care about the opinions of an ignorant, uneducated antisemite holocaust denier. I especially don't care about anyone who calls Jews nazis and doesn't have the intelligence to understand why that's incredibly offensive.

I am not a Muslim and therefore do not accept nor believe in the Quran or Muhammad in any way. You and your fellow Islamists insist he is a prophet, I say he's a fraud. I guess we're at an impasse.

 

[Godobeyer]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Your inability to understand what I wrote initially on the subject of Gaza is either due to your lack of literacy in English, or your pathological stupidity.

In either case I don't care about the opinions of an ignorant, uneducated antisemite holocaust denier. I especially don't care about anyone who calls Jews nazis and doesn't have the intelligence to understand why that's incredibly offensive.

I am not a Muslim and therefore do not accept nor believe in the Quran or Muhammad in any way. You and your fellow Islamists insist he is a prophet, I say he's a fraud. I guess we're at an impasse.

blah blah ?,hhhhhhh
My stupidity detect that said, you are anti-Islam and muslims.pro-Israel whatever cost.
Yes ,zionsits and nazi both same regime and same ideoly of God chosen people,others are less human.

 

[Quagmire]

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