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The Wisconsin power grab is part of a bigger Republican attack on democracy

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by sun rise, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:53 AM.

  1. sun rise

    sun rise "Love pours forth from the heart of the universe."
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    The Wisconsin power grab is part of a bigger Republican attack on democracy

    On Wednesday morning, the Republican-controlled state legislature passed a bill that would seize key powers from incoming Democratic Gov. Tony Evers, who defeated incumbent Gov. Scott Walker in November. ..

    The bill blocks Evers’s ability to change state welfare policy and withdraw from a lawsuit against the Affordable Care Act — two things he campaigned on. It limits the state’s early voting period, a move that would make it harder for Democrats to win future elections. And this is all happening during the lame-duck session before Evers takes power, rushed through quickly in an explicit effort to weaken Democrats and prevent the new governor from doing what he was elected to do. In essence, Wisconsin Republicans are telling the state’s voters that their preferences will be ignored.

    This would be troubling enough if it were a one-off. But it’s not.

    Michigan Republicans are currently weighing similar plans, and both are following in the footsteps of North Carolina Republicans, who passed a power-stripping bill after a Democratic victory in the 2016 governor’s race. State Republicans in three of the country’s most vital swing states are displaying open contempt for the most basic principle of democracy: that when you lose an election, you have to hand over power to your opponents. The national party hasn’t condemned these power grabs, giving the state legislatures tacit permission to rewrite the rules.

    These power grabs highlight one of the most disturbing facts about American politics today: The Republican Party has become institutionally indifferent to the health of democracy. It prioritizes power over principle to such an extreme degree that it undermines the most basic functioning of democracy.
     
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  2. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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    I have been trying to keep up with this development, this is not okay.
     
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  3. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Ignorant Heathen Libertarian Capitalist
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    Democratically elected representatives trying to
    defang a democratically elected governor?
    It's not an attack on democracy....it is democracy.
    No one ever said would be pretty.
     
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  4. YmirGF

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    It's like the current crop of politician's have never heard, "What goes around, comes around." Jeeez.
     
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  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Ignorant Heathen Libertarian Capitalist
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    And the critique could be alternatively phrased as.....
    "Brave legislature unites to prevent new governor from
    destroying democracy by upending the will of the people."
     
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  6. YmirGF

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    Oh, the irony.
     
  7. Woberts

    Woberts The Perfumed Seneschal

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    What else would you expect?
     
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    Of course. Wisconsinites elected a Republican legislative body.

    It's the will of the people of Wisconsin that our legislative and executive branches oppose one another.

    As a Wisconsinite third party voter, I think this is a good development. Let the Republican legislature try to defang the Democratic executive, and let's hope the Democratic executive responds by trying to defang the Republican legislature. Let 'em whittle down their own powers. They'll be too busy trying to screw each other over to screw the rest of us over, good.

    Sure, you can argue that the Governor is being prevented from doing what he was elected to do by the Representatives and Senators, but those Representatives and Senators were elected to do that too. The democratic will of the people in my State, apparently, is that the different bodies in power should be opposed to one another.

    Just as it is technically the will of the American people for the Congress to try to obstruct the President, an action I doubt many of the people who have a problem with the Wisconsin legislature's actions mind too much.

    Them doing this violates the will of the people in what the people elected the governor to do. But them not doing this violates the will of the people in what the people elected the legislature to do. Either option is simultaneously both a violation and affirmation of the popular will. Says some interesting things about Democracy, probably, in how the same people can elect different politicians who will in turn oppose one another but hey, that's how the votes turned out.
     
  9. youknowme

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    It is not Democracy, but it is politics and Republicans just seem better at working the system than Democrats. However, the Democrats have been able to capture the youth and in the game of politics this is where the real power is at. Unless Republicans can start appealing to younger generations then their "power grab", in the long run, is just another speed bump.
     
  10. columbus

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    Sorry, undermining basic institutions is not democracy.
    And I can't help but notice that it has been the Republican party who have lead that charge for over 20 years. It has left me unable to vote for anybody with an "R" after their name since 2010.
    Tom
     
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  11. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    This reminds me of how the left tried to block Trump from banning people from certain countries from entering the U.S. and other things.

    See how doing stuff like that makes it normal? God forbid mass corruption overtakes this country like it has in so, so many other places.
     
  12. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Yup, it's not like the left doesn't do it... It's just that they play outrage when it happens to them.

    ...Selective outrage.
     
  13. Nakosis

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  14. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Sometimes I forget about that. Selective memory perhaps, being I don't want it to be true.
     
  15. youknowme

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    It is politically beneficial to shine the spotlight on the shenanigans of your opponents even if doing so makes you a hypocrite.
     
  16. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    But it's okay if it's the SCOTUS blocking trump. What's your stoyle?

     
  17. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    ...:)

     
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    Power is power. Imagine the seductive temptations of power. Hard for anyone to resist. Could you resist?

    Deep down in your soul, you know what's best for everyone. Ok, so superficially I know you are suppose to deny this, but really if the rest of the world would just listen to you, this would be a perfect place.

    I'm sure these politicians are only doing the world a favor, as they see it.
     
  19. Landon Caeli

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    I am a very weak, weak man. I would be seduced easily by such temptations.
     
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    In their quest for continued power these politicians are openly disregarding the election results.
     
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