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The Westernization of Iraq

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Landon Caeli, Aug 18, 2019.

  1. sooda

    sooda Veteran Member

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    Who says they are getting robbed?

    KSA invests heavily in new business and job creation. 5 years ago the created a half million new manufacturing jobs... and expanded the industrial cities of Yanbu and Jubail.
     
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    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    I forget who said it, but it was mentioned on this thread that US is stealing oil. Given that we are now a net exporter and have been since Obama and the money that is paid to oil producing nations for their oil, renders that claim weak.
     
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  3. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Let's not make this about oil. I see that as a distraction from the Summer Festival.
     
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    Trump said we should steal Iraqi oil and reimburse the US for the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
     
  5. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Can you guys take this somewhere else please.
     
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    Have you ever been to Baghdad? I doubt that they will lose their culture over Western music or blue jeans. Before Bush invaded there were 50 Christian churches just in Baghdad.
     
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    I never said music or motorcycles are evil. It's what they represent that's evil, namely the cultural shift, the coerced shift from traditional culture to Western, consumerist, quantity-based culture. Traditional cultures that allow Westernization will always regret it. Case in point: Iran. It's always cultures who have never experienced Westernization who beg for it the most.
     
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    Wow! No wonder he does not sleep that much at night. How could he?

    Well, sure. He could. Narcissists don't have guilt issues.

    That is incredible. Even though, as a country, we made the decision to invade, but since we won, we can now manipulate morality and re-interpret theft as reimbursement. We have indeed, been made great again.
     
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    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    Just keep in mind that many of the World's great religious texts are the result of cultural contamination or contain significant portions derived from cultural contamination.
     
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    You don't know much about Iran either.
     
  11. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Motorcycles and electronic music represent "consumerist, quantity-based culture"..? Uh.. No.. they don't.
     
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    Trump? He's a creep to the bone.
     
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    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    Discussions of oil do impact claims about the Westernization of Iraq. They go to motivation.
     
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    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    He is not a conservative or a Republican, except in name only. He is a narcissistic, authoritarian. If he had not been born to wealth and raised to believe that everything he says is some sort of gospel, he would likely be a petty criminal somewhere.
     
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    shmogie Well-Known Member
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    We are a Constitutional Representative Republic.

    Democracies presuppose that the majority is always right, because they are the majority.

    Consequently, the majority determines what everyones rights are to be.

    There are no absolute rights. Only the rights granted by or removed by the majority.

    If you are part of a minority, no matter how, e.g. by race, eye color, religion, sex, however you want to make the distinctions, your life can be controlled by the majority, and you have absolutely no say in the matter.
     
  16. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Did you totally ignore what the young woman said in the article?

    Nobody forced western culture on them. They wanted it from the start. So much so they had to listen to music they like in secret.

    I have a friend from one of these "cultures" you hold so much in revere. He is gay, and had to keep it a secret to keep from being killed by his own govt. Eventually he made it to the U.S. and is now a citizen and participates in whatever lifestyle, music, whatevs he wants without fear of the threat of death.


    I think its great that they enjoy western culture and want to take part in it. If they don't want to that is ok too.
     
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    Lets not leave out the telephone, actual functioning light bulb, jeans, GPS, You want to avoid American things, eliminate all of these from your life. You will have made a slight start.
     
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    True. He lives on in his music.
     
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    Shiranui117 Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
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    If anything, this is starting to get back to normalcy for the country. For all of Saddam's crimes, he allowed some measure of freedom of artistic and religious expression.
     
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    They all complain about American culture, yet cannot hold back in immersing themselves in it.
     
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