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The vatican chants regarding lucifer
- Thread starter Ubon
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Post it, duh.
Link?
If it's not hard to hard, then it shouldn't be hard for you to post it. This is your thread, after all. It's not up to us to do your work for you.
Mister Silver
Faith's Nightmare
Since the OP is so lazy, here's what I found:
It's referring to Christ as the Morning Star. Big deal.
Does the Pope Promote Lucifer Worship in Catholic Mass?
"Who is Lucifer – Jesus or Satan?
Now that the negative case against the Catholic Mass has been dealt with, we need to turn to the positive case. Why is “lucifer” in these lyrics? Well, when we turn to the New Testament it becomes perfectly clear who the apostles called “The Morning Star”- it is Jesus Christ!
Jesus is described as the “morning star” (phosphorus) in 2 Peter 1:19. This kind of imagery is used often of the Messiah in the New Testament (e.g., Mt. 4:16; Lk. 1:76-79; and Jn. 1:7-9) and may hearken back to Old Testament descriptions of the Messiah (e.g., Num. 24:17; Isa 9:2, 60:1-2; and Mal. 4:2). Jesus is also called the “bright morning star” (using different Greek terms than 2 Peter 1:19) in Revelation 22:16. The underlying Greek terms are translated in Latin as “lucifer”.
So, according to the Bible, “lucifer” is Jesus!
The Church offers the correct translation of the Latin Mass in question:
“May the morning Star which never sets find this flame still burning:
Christ, that Morning Star, who came back from the dead,
and shed his peaceful light on all mankind,
your Son who lives and reigns for ever and ever.”
This beautiful prayer is said at the Easter vigil as Catholics (holding candles to ward off the darkness) look forward to the coming of the dawn, and, someday, the return of Christ himself."
Lucifer is a title and a function, not a proper name. It's deceitful to leave it untranslated in order to mislead people.
Now that the negative case against the Catholic Mass has been dealt with, we need to turn to the positive case. Why is “lucifer” in these lyrics? Well, when we turn to the New Testament it becomes perfectly clear who the apostles called “The Morning Star”- it is Jesus Christ!
Jesus is described as the “morning star” (phosphorus) in 2 Peter 1:19. This kind of imagery is used often of the Messiah in the New Testament (e.g., Mt. 4:16; Lk. 1:76-79; and Jn. 1:7-9) and may hearken back to Old Testament descriptions of the Messiah (e.g., Num. 24:17; Isa 9:2, 60:1-2; and Mal. 4:2). Jesus is also called the “bright morning star” (using different Greek terms than 2 Peter 1:19) in Revelation 22:16. The underlying Greek terms are translated in Latin as “lucifer”.
So, according to the Bible, “lucifer” is Jesus!
The Church offers the correct translation of the Latin Mass in question:
“May the morning Star which never sets find this flame still burning:
Christ, that Morning Star, who came back from the dead,
and shed his peaceful light on all mankind,
your Son who lives and reigns for ever and ever.”
This beautiful prayer is said at the Easter vigil as Catholics (holding candles to ward off the darkness) look forward to the coming of the dawn, and, someday, the return of Christ himself."
Lucifer is a title and a function, not a proper name. It's deceitful to leave it untranslated in order to mislead people.
You don't understand Latin?
Tom
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Happy birthday! How old are you?
Ubon
Member
Well i dont have to post it as i wrote about it, its up to those that dont believe to go and look.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
"Who is Lucifer – Jesus or Satan?
Now that the negative case against the Catholic Mass has been dealt with, we need to turn to the positive case. Why is “lucifer” in these lyrics? Well, when we turn to the New Testament it becomes perfectly clear who the apostles called “The Morning Star”- it is Jesus Christ!
Jesus is described as the “morning star” (phosphorus) in 2 Peter 1:19. This kind of imagery is used often of the Messiah in the New Testament (e.g., Mt. 4:16; Lk. 1:76-79; and Jn. 1:7-9) and may hearken back to Old Testament descriptions of the Messiah (e.g., Num. 24:17; Isa 9:2, 60:1-2; and Mal. 4:2). Jesus is also called the “bright morning star” (using different Greek terms than 2 Peter 1:19) in Revelation 22:16. The underlying Greek terms are translated in Latin as “lucifer”.
So, according to the Bible, “lucifer” is Jesus!
The Church offers the correct translation of the Latin Mass in question:
“May the morning Star which never sets find this flame still burning:
Christ, that Morning Star, who came back from the dead,
and shed his peaceful light on all mankind,
your Son who lives and reigns for ever and ever.”
This beautiful prayer is said at the Easter vigil as Catholics (holding candles to ward off the darkness) look forward to the coming of the dawn, and, someday, the return of Christ himself."
Lucifer is a title and a function, not a proper name. It's deceitful to leave it untranslated in order to mislead people.
Easter Vigil is a beautiful thing.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
They are not. Lucifer means the morning star. Satan is the accuser.
Ubon
Member
Yes the pagans loved it.