The Universe or Absolute

[Fool]

Is the universe changeable; if there is nothing apart from it to affect change.

 

[allfoak]

The ability to reflect upon who we are is what changes the universe.

 

[syo]

Is the universe changeable; if there is nothing apart from it to affect change.

god can change the universe.

 

[Fool]

god can change the universe.

ok, substituting universe and absolute for god. can god be changed when there is nothing apart from god to influence or effect god?

 

[stvdv]

ok, substituting universe and absolute for god. can god be changed when there is nothing apart from god to influence or effect god?

Depends on the eyes you look with. Physical eyes see change, spiritual eye ....

 

[ChristineM]

Is the universe changeable; if there is nothing apart from it to affect change.

Consider the universe began as a tiny speck inflating to unimaginably hot plasma, then quantum particle's formed, then hydrogen atoms, helium atoms, suns, some heavier elements, more suns, even heavier elements, galaxies and solar systems, the universe has changed considerably over the last 13+ billion years.

I have no idea how but i see no reason the universe will not continue to follow the path of entropy.

 

[shunyadragon]

Is the universe changeable; if there is nothing apart from it to affect change.

Evidence indicates our universe involves natural cycles of evolution and change of galaxies, solar systems and planets within the parameters of underlying natural laws.

 

[Woberts]

Certain things about the universe are unchangeable. The speed of light, for example.
Other things can be changed. Gravity at the quantum level behaves differently than gravity at our level, for example.

 

[shunyadragon]

Certain things about the universe are unchangeable. The speed of light, for example.
Other things can be changed. Gravity at the quantum level behaves differently than gravity at our level, for example.

Contemporary physics and cosmology does not necessarily consider the speed of light as constant. The speed of light is only considered to have a value of 299,792,458 m/s in a vacuum when measured objectively in the same reference as the measured speed of light. Maybe more to follow, but I do not want wander off topic.

 

[Woberts]

Contemporary physics and cosmology does not necessarily consider the speed of light as constant. The speed of light is only considered to have a value of 299,792,458 m/s in a vacuum when measured objectively in the same reference as the measured speed of light. Maybe more to follow, but I do not want wander off topic.

Huh. I didn't know that.

 

[syo]

ok, substituting universe and absolute for god. can god be changed when there is nothing apart from god to influence or effect god?

god cannot be changed. that's why we say his all-powerfull.

 

[Willamena]

Change is the only constant.

 

[shunyadragon]

Change is the only constant.

Actually, the underlying laws of nature of everything are what do not change. Change is an attribute of the time/space of our universe and all possible universes. The evidence indicates that change is cyclic in nature with the evolving birth and death of everything in our known physical existence.

 

[Fool]

Consider the universe began as a tiny speck inflating to unimaginably hot plasma, then quantum particle's formed, then hydrogen atoms, helium atoms, suns, some heavier elements, more suns, even heavier elements, galaxies and solar systems, the universe has changed considerably over the last 13+ billion years.

I have no idea how but i see no reason the universe will not continue to follow the path of entropy.

so it can change itself but itself cannot be changed by any outside influence because it would then not be Absolute, or ALL?

 

[ChristineM]

so it can change itself but itself cannot be changed by any outside influence because it would then not be Absolute, or ALL?

Correct, it has changed over time

Is it all? That is unknown

 

[Fool]

Correct, it has changed over time

Is it all? That is unknown

theoretically everything as a whole in an Absolute and cannot be absolute; if there is something otherwise.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Is the universe changeable; if there is nothing apart from it to affect change.

Guess you'd have to see the original first.

 

[shunyadragon]

theoretically everything as a whole in an Absolute and cannot be absolute; if there is something otherwise.

Not clear, and more than a little confusing.

 

[ChristineM]

theoretically everything as a whole in an Absolute and cannot be absolute; if there is something otherwise.

Still unknown

 

[Fool]

Still unknown

unknown to us, yes. theoretically only the Absolute could know ALL