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Featured The UK is no longer majority Christian

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by Altfish, Nov 29, 2022.

  1. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane My own religion

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    No, I don't believe atheism is a religion, But the rest of your worldview might be that.
     
  2. Alien826

    Alien826 Older than dirt

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    Let's complete the job of getting rid of the Hereditary Peers too.
     
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  3. Alien826

    Alien826 Older than dirt

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    I'm against the Monarchy on principle, but it seems that a majority of Brits want to keep it. We do tend to cling to tradition long after any utility has departed. This Head of the Church thing goes back to Henry VIII, of course, when both King and Church had very real power and the King wanted to get a divorce when the Pope wouldn't grant one. The title Defender of the Faith has an interesting history too.

    Incidentally, is the UK with its Bishops in the House of Lords, more or less influenced by religion than the USA with its Catholic dominated Supreme Court?
     
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  4. Sand Dancer

    Sand Dancer Crazy Cat Lady

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    We just gotta rebel against Europe, darn it.
     
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  5. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    I think if the brown stuff hit the fan the census would be different,religion and tradition are intertwined in the UK as in many places in the world so I think there’s many fence sitters.
     
  6. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    I lived in the SF Bay Area for eleven years way back when ... :)
     
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  7. sun rise

    sun rise Śvāna Dharma
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    I was living in Windsor up north a bit in 1976. Memories.
     
  8. Altfish

    Altfish Veteran Member

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    That sounds like the reason you voted Brexit.
    Based on absolutely no evidence and using the "there are no atheists in fax holes" argument
     
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  9. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    And what is this "higher power's" purpose? What does it do? How do you get it to do that? Because trying to answer those questions are what lead almost inexorably to religion.
     
  10. 9-10ths_Penguin

    9-10ths_Penguin 1/10 Subway Stalinist
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    I've been thinking about that. One big difference between the US and UK (and most of Europe): the US never had a civil war over religious differences. They haven't seen the full extent of what can happen when one part of society tries to push their religion on everyone.

    (And even though the English Civil War happened before the US split off, the US seems to have forgotten about pre-Revolution history)
     
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  11. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    A Fax,thing of the past like Brexit,I’m just pointing out that people will still get married baptised or buried via a religious ceremony so it’s not like cutting the apron strings for ever.
     
  12. stevecanuck

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    Muslims will NOT forcefully convert the British. They won't have to. When they reach sufficient numbers (probably not for at least a couple of decades) they will simply gain control of the government through the democratic process and legislate sharia as the law of the land.
     
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  13. Heyo

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    No, they haven't. At least not until recently. Remember that the US has been made up mostly of immigrants, many of them fleeing religious persecution. It is only in the last two or three generations that that memory has been lost.
     
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  14. Wandering Monk

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    Not necessarily so. Generally, the wealthier and more educated people become, the fewer children they have.
     
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  15. Altfish

    Altfish Veteran Member

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    OK, a spalling error.
    I didn't get married in a church, my children aren't baptised, I can't remember the last non-Humanist funeral I attended.
    Humanist marriages out number christian ones in Scotland
     
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  16. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane My own religion

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    Okay, it is simple once you check the history of science and try to understand this:
    Basic assumptions of science - Understanding Science

    How come it is assumptions? Well, because even objective reason, logic and evidence have limits.
    And in practice they are here:
    Science has limits: A few things that science does not do - Understanding Science

    So to the bone, both for that the world is natural or that the world is from God, are without evidence.
    As for these 2 natural and supernatural, there is several other ones and I use one of them.
    I don't know what the world is in the strong objective sense and I don't care, because I don't need to know that. Personally I use religion as it works for me as a personal crutch. I.e. a psychological coping mechanism.

    But I seperate how I cope from other humans as to how they cope. So for the everyday world I am a variant of secular humanism, yet also religious.
     
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  17. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    Let's say that Britain becomes 100% atheistic.
    What will happen to the churches and the cathedrals? Will they be demolished?
     
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  18. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane My own religion

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    That is unknown.
     
  19. Altfish

    Altfish Veteran Member

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    Turned into flats, offices, land cleared for development. In my area the local CofE church that I used to attend has gone and is now houses. The main RC church has gone to be replaced by flats.
    Buildings can be repurposed

    BTW the UK will never be 100& atheistic (Is that a word?)
     
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  20. wellwisher

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    This make sense since Christians create the most desirable places to live. You don't see people flocking to get into Atheist countries like China or the old Soviet Union. It is usually the other way around, until there goes the neighborhood.
     
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