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The true face of Christianity

A little chronology on the history of Christianity and of the people who believe in that religion.

Please understand that this list is not a full, compleat, detail account of all of the atrocities that had been committed by those people who profess to be a godly people.For that would require an extremely long list.

So lets start this chronology at the beginning when Christianity first emerged on the world scene.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
thenight_templer said:
A little chronology on the history of Christianity and of the people who believe in that religion.

Please understand that this list is not a full, compleat, detail account of all of the atrocities that had been committed by those people who profess to be a godly people.For that would require an extremely long list.

So lets start this chronology at the beginning when Christianity first emerged on the world scene.

This all depends on whne you believe that Christianity began. There are some that believe it started out when Jesus came, there are others who profess it began at Adam and Eve. Yes, some Christians committed horrible crimes, take Hitler for instance, but you should not judge a faith on a few peoples actions.

The whole of Christians are a peace-loving, caring people.
 
beckysoup61 said:
This all depends on whne you believe that Christianity began. There are some that believe it started out when Jesus came, there are others who profess it began at Adam and Eve. Yes, some Christians committed horrible crimes, take Hitler for instance, but you should not judge a faith on a few peoples actions.

The whole of Christians are a peace-loving, caring people.
thanks for you rist seriouse reply , but i think you read allready my post (the sowrds in the bible )
ist the bible verse , so how come now you tell me its christianty is peace and love:hug: ??
 

kevmicsmi

Well-Known Member
beckysoup61 said:
This all depends on whne you believe that Christianity began. There are some that believe it started out when Jesus came, there are others who profess it began at Adam and Eve. Yes, some Christians committed horrible crimes, take Hitler for instance, but you should not judge a faith on a few peoples actions.

The whole of Christians are a peace-loving, caring people.

Hitler was christian?

http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/4885/hitler.html

The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advance of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that's left is to prove that in nature there's no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds - perhaps inhabited worlds like ours - then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
thenight_templer said:
thanks for you rist seriouse reply , but i think you read allready my post (the sowrds in the bible )
ist the bible verse , so how come now you tell me its christianty is peace and love:hug: ??

What? Could you explain to me what you are trying say? Oh, maybe this is a challenge and I can translate again!

rist = first
seriouse = serious
sowrds = swordds
ist = first

You are asking how Chiristinaity is the religion of peace and love. There are few things.

"Love thy enimies"
"Love thy neighbor as thyself"
"Turn the other cheek"
"Forgive 70 times 7"

Does that make it clear? Yes, not everybody follows this, but Christianity is a message of love and peace.
 

Mr. Hair

Renegade Cavalcade
thenight_templer said:
The true face of Christianity
A little off topic, but how can a faith that has millions upon millions of followers, and thousands of interpretations, texts and traditions have one single 'face'? It seems as if you're trying to fix every Christian (Incidentally, I'd be interested in how you define what makes a person a Christian) into a unified and sharply defined block, and I simply don't think that can be done. One's spirituality is a unique and complex thing, and cannot easily be sorted into words and labels at the best of times.

It's a little like studying a single tree in order to understand trees in general. From a distance they seem the same (Fuzzy brown and green blobs), but once you start really looking you can see that while all trees share common traits, each one in uniquely itself and no two are exactly alike.

Atrocities have been committed in the name of Christianity, just as they have been in almost all religions at some point, but this does not in itself implicate any religion. It matters what caused the effect and, in this case, whether the fundamental message of Christianity agreed with this or that particular effect.

I'll stop rambling on now... :)
 

finalfrogo

Well-Known Member
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80CE; During the reign of Titus, The people who would become known as Christians had seperated themselves from the true fold of Yeshua. They develope and create their own dogma and god whom they will call Je-Zuse Christ.


170CE; Marcus (Aurelius Antoninus) was emporor of Rome and was an enemy of the Christians because he believed that they were secretly planning to overthrow Rome. Clement of Alexandria was born in 150 CE and died in 215 CE. He had lived for fifty-five years. He was a church father (Bishop) and theologian of the early Christian Eastern Orthodox Church sect. He started his ministry around 170-180 AD. He was born in Athens and spent most of his time in Alexandria. His most important work is the trilogy "Exhortation to the Greeks" the "Tutor" and "Miscellanies. His is the earliest works (documents) of the teachings of the early Christian that is on hand. Teachings and works a good hundred years after the actual events had taken place from the time of Yeshua and the original Apostles.

200CE; Emperor Claudius Era; Since the Jews were continually making disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he [Claudius] expelled them from Rome.

284CE; Emperor Diocletian found that he could not rule by himself, so the division of the Empire began. He split the empire in half, with two emperors ruling from Italy and Greece, each having a co-emperor of their own. This division continued into the 4th century.

324CE; Constantine I (Constantine the Great.) became the monarch of Rome. Great for who? Certinally not for those people who had suffered or were slaughtered during his reign.

325-363
CE;

The persecution and execution of people whom the "Christian Church" viewed as heretics began. Heretics were people who did not uphold fully to the theology that was given to people by the ruling "Church". Non-believers of Christianity and people who had strayed from the strict teachings of the ruling Christian "Church" or those people who spoke against the "Church" or its teachings were persecuted and executed. Any "gospel" writings that did not meet the full approval of the then ruling "Church" were confiscated and burned. Emperor Constantine, the first Roman Emperor to become a Christian, a sort of part-time Christian upheld by the then Roman Christian church, had over 3000 non-Christians and Christians executed because some people had refused to covert to the Christian religion, or those people who held interpretations of Christianity that did not agree with his and the Roman (Catholic) church that he represented. These killing of innocent people were more than the number of Christians who had died at the hands of the pagan Romans during the well known 1st century persecutions of Christians when they were led to the lions. Constantine decided to found a new capital for himself and chose Byzantium (today's Istanbul) for that purpose.

330CE; Constantine makes Constantinople (Nova Roma) his capital.

382CE; Emperor Theodosius passed laws making heresy punishable by death.

527CE; Justinian I becomes Emperor.

532-537 CE;
Justinian builds the church of Hagia Sophia/Holy Wisdom.

777CE; Charlemagne, a Christian, after conquering the Saxon rebels, gave the people a choice between baptism and execution. When they refused to convert, he had 4500 people beheaded just in one morning.

1054CE; The Church in Rome breaks with the Church in Constantinople.

1060CE; A reign of terror began for those people who did not uphold fully the Roman Catholic Church theology and teachings. Those people whom the Roman Catholic Church deemed as heretics, were hunted down, persecuted and executed. Any material that were found that did not meet the full approval of the Roman Catholic Church was destroyed and burned.

1096-1099 CE;
Christian crusaders swept over Jerusalem and slaughtered innocent men, women and children who were Jews and non-Christians, along with the Turks, "until their horses were knee deep in blood. Then they went to the church to thank their phony god for his mercy."

1203CE; Constantinople is occupied by the Forth Crusaders.

1205CE; Pope Innocent III in the Bull Si adversus vos, forbade any legal help for people who were deemed to be heretics. These heretics were strictly prohibited to have lawyers or notaries in assisting them by council or support, or defend them in any way.

1208CE; Papal legate in Southern France who had been making progress in the forced convertion on the people of Cathar was murdered by those people who had rebelled against this outrage. Christians considered these people to be heretics to orthodox Catholicism.

1215CE; Fourth Lateran Council declared that convicted heretics shall be handed over for due punishment to their secular superiors, or the latter's agents. ...If a temporal Lord neglects to fulfil the demand of the Church that he shall purge his land of the contamination of heresy, he shall be excommunicated by the metropolitan and other bishops of the province. If these non-catholics Nobals or Lords failed to make amends within a year, it shall be reported to the Supreme Pontiff, who shall pronounce his vassals absolved from fealty to him (consfectation) and offer his land to Catholics. The latter shall exterminate the heretics, possess the land without dispute and preserve these lands and people to the Christian faith.

1216CE; Dominican order was founded.

1224CE; In his Constitution, Frederick III declared that heretics be convicted by an ecclesiastical court and should suffer death by fire.

1226CE;Louis IX ordered barons to deal with heretics according to the dictates of duty.

1230CE; Pope Gregory IX began the Medieval Inquisition by setting up in Toulouse, France, the first permanent tribunal to deal with heresy.

1232CE; Pope Gregory IX established the Inquisition in Aragon. In the Bull Declinante jam mundi of 26 May, 1232, Archbishop Esparrago and his suffragans were instructed to search for and punish heretics in their dioceses.

1237CE; The Inquisition was formally placed under the authority of the Dominicans and the Franciscans during the Council of Learida.

1239CE; Robert le Bougre at Montwimer in Champagne, had burned at the stake about a hundred and eighty people during a trial that lasted a week.

1242CE; At the Synod of Tarragona, Raymund of Pennafort defined the terms haereticus, receptor, fautor, defensor, etc., and outlined the penalties to be inflicted.

1249CE; Count Raylmund VII of Toulouse had eighty people who were view as heretics were burned at the stakes in his presence without giving them a chance to recant.

1252CE; Torture to elicit confessions was first authorized by Pope Innocent IV in his Bull Ad exstirpanda (May 15th) which was confirmed by Pope Alexander IV on November 30, 1259, and by Pope Clement IV on November 3, 1265 in Ad exstirpanda Innocent IV wrote: When those adjudged guilty of heresy have been given up to the civil power by the bishop or his representative, or the Inquisition, the podestà or chief magistrate of the city shall take them at once, and shall, within five days at the most, execute the laws made against them. He also ordered that this Bull and corresponding regulations of Frederick II be entered in every city among the municipal statutes under pain of excommunication, a punishment also visited on those who failed to follow the papal and imperial decrees.

1254CE; Pope Innocent IV prohibited perpetual imprisonment or death by burning on the stake from people who were deemed to be heretics without his episcopal consent.

1260CE; Pope Alexander IV on April 27, authorized inquisitors to absolve one another of any irregularities in the pursuit of their duties.

1261CE; Constantinople is liberated by the Byzantine emperor Michael Palaeologus.

1262CE; Pope Urban IV renewed this authorizion on August 2, and this was soon interpreted as formal licence to continue the examination under torture within their torture chambers.

1280CE; A bull from Pope Nicholas III was read ...If any, after being seized, wish to repent and do penance, they shall be imprisoned for life. Anyone who receive, defend, or aid heretics shall be excomminicated. If those who were suspected of heresy cannot prove their innocence, they shall be excommunicated. If they remain under the ban of excommunication for a year, they shall be condemned as heretics. They shall have no right of appeal.

1286CE; The consuls of Carcassonne complained to the pope, the King of France, and the vicars of the local bishop about the inquisitor Jean Garland, whom they alleged had been inflicting torture to their people.


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