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the trinity, what do you believe?
- Thread starter Starlight
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I think it depends on what part of the elephant on is touching.
I suppose pragmatically, one would see the Trinity as option 2, while absolutely, one may see it as option 1.
I suppose pragmatically, one would see the Trinity as option 2, while absolutely, one may see it as option 1.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
That I do not know
i can not answer until i know God fully by heart, something I currently do not do
The old saying - two's company, three's a crowd?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I believe it works for some people to believe in it.
RabbiO
הרב יונה בן זכריה
Neither of the above.
I think it is secretive. I think it is one omnipresent God described three ways, and the terminology of 'Persons' hides this. The three persons are perhaps three points being made. There could be many points being made, but here are examples. One thing about the holy spirit is that no one can dictate who may receive it. One thing about the son is that sons inherit, so whoever the holy spirit goes into may inherit divine attributes.
Brian2
Veteran Member
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Do you think the two opinions has the same meaning? That the two opinions describe the same?
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Basic question: Why believe in any since there is no evidence.
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
I do not believe in the trinity
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Most christians in the world believe God is a being.
In my view, God is being.
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
That is true. What i wrote was wrong. Christians also believe God is being
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
It's impossible to know God completely, as in His essence, but I still am convinced of some things, such as God does not have three parts. This is due to revelation. We can know his qualities, which Baha'is call attributes. They live within us.That I do not know
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
I'm finding it hard to distnguish between the two. I say no in either case. There is a trinity, as follows:
All created things are resplendent signs of God. For instance, the rays of the sun shine upon all earthly things, yet the light that falls upon the plains, the mountains, the trees and fruits is only in such measure as to make them visible, to ensure their growth, and to cause them to attain the object of their existence. The Perfect Man, however, is even as a clear mirror in which the Sun of Truth is revealed and manifested in the fullness of its attributes and perfections. Thus the reality of Christ was a bright and polished mirror of the greatest purity and clarity. The Sun of Truth, the Essence of the Divinity, appeared in that mirror and manifested its light and heat therein, yet it did not descend from the heights of holiness and the heaven of sanctity to reside within it. No, it continues to abide in its loftiness and sublimity, but has been revealed and manifested in the mirror in all its beauty and perfection.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, "Some Answered Questions", 27.5
Now, if we were to say that we have beheld the Sun in two mirrors — one Christ and the other the Holy Spirit — or, in other words, that we have seen three Suns — one in heaven and two upon the earth — we would be speaking the truth. And if we were to say that there is only one Sun, that it is absolute singleness, and that it has no peer or partner, we would again be speaking the truth.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, "Some Answered Questions", 27.6
The purport of our words is that the reality of Christ was a clear mirror wherein the Sun of Truth — that is, the divine Essence — appeared and shone forth with infinite perfections and attributes. It is not that the Sun, which is the Essence of the Divinity, was ever divided or multiplied — for it remains one — but it became manifest in the mirror. That is why Christ said, “The Father is in the Son”, meaning that that Sun is manifest and visible in this mirror.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, "Some Answered Questions", 27.7
The Holy Spirit is the outpouring grace of God which was revealed and manifested in the reality of Christ. Prophethood is the station of the heart of Christ, and the Holy Spirit is the station of His spirit. It is thus evident and established that the Essence of the Divinity is absolute oneness and has no peer, equal, or likeness.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, "Some Answered Questions", 27.8
This is the true meaning of the three Persons of the Trinity. Otherwise, the foundations of the religion of God would rest upon an illogical proposition which no mind could ever conceive, and how could the mind be required to believe a thing which it cannot conceive? Such a thing could not be grasped by human reason — how much less be clothed in an intelligible form — but would remain sheer fancy.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, "Some Answered Questions", 27.9