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The Trinity and Jesus as God Debunked

DDD

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*A Samarian YHWH/Yahweh from 325 B.C on a Drachm coin.*


First, let's establish this very fact to avoid confusion:

The LORD = "all caps" a reference for the Hebrew name of God himself in the Old Testament which is YHWH/Yahweh, using the tetragrammaton. The reason why the bible does not use this name is because of the observation of one of the 10 commandments that states, "You shall not misuse the name of Yahweh your God, for Yahweh will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name." Exodus 20:7, Deuteronomy 5:11. So the english bible translators used "the LORD" instead out of fear of being cursed by God himself for possibly misusing his own name improperly.


With that out of the way, let's establish the fact that Jesus could never be God. Jesus is not God, as he even alludes to, and the trinity is a deceptive lie; John 14:28, Mark 13:32, Mark 15:34, Matthew 4:1-11.

What we learn from these verses is that:

1. Jesus is not God because he is not all knowing, 1 John 3:20.

2. Jesus is not as great in every way shape and form compared to the father, God. This speaks for itself.

3. God can never forsake himself because he is God, period. Jesus cries out to God on the cross, "Why have you forsaken me?" If Jesus was God, he could never forsake himself, 2 Timothy 2:8-13, 2 Timothy 2:13. But God did forsake Jesus, proving that Jesus is not God and cannot be that God he was denied by.

4. Jesus was tempted by Satan/the evil one/the devil in the wilderness. But God himself said he can never be tempted by evil, James 1:13.



"The LORD" is God himself in the Old Testament. Jesus is not God as we have proven. Therefore everyone should stop equating "the LORD" with "Jesus" as I have shown why. And the trinity doctrine is easily debunked here because if Jesus was God, he would be able to live up to the same standards as God but this is not the case.

He is not all knowing, is tempted by evil, is not as great in every way compared to his "father," God, and was able to be forsaken/denied which all of this would be impossible with God as I have shown and because God is perfect and divine; Isaiah 45:18, Deuteronomy 32:4, Psalm 92:15. This will make you question your beliefs about Jesus and God. Because think about it, God denying "God" doesn't sound logical in the first place, does it?


Forsake* is also a synonym for deny:* forsake | Origin and meaning of forsake by Online Etymology Dictionary
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
First, let's establish this very fact to avoid confusion:

The LORD = "all caps" a reference for the Hebrew name of God himself in the Old Testament which is YHWH/Yahweh, using the tetragrammaton. The reason why the bible does not use this name is because of the observation of one of the 10 commandments that states, "You shall not misuse the name of Yahweh your God, for Yahweh will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name." Exodus 20:7, Deuteronomy 5:11. So the english bible translators used "the LORD" instead out of fear of being cursed by God himself for possibly misusing his own name improperly.


With that out of the way, let's establish the fact that Jesus could never be God. Jesus is not God, as he even alludes to, and the trinity is a deceptive lie; John 14:28, Mark 13:32, Mark 15:34, Matthew 4:1-11.

What we learn from these verses is that:

1. Jesus is not God because he is not all knowing, 1 John 3:20.

2. Jesus is not as great in every way shape and form compared to the father, God. This speaks for itself.

3. God can never forsake himself because he is God, period. Jesus cries out to God on the cross, "Why have you forsaken me?" If Jesus was God, he could never forsake himself, 2 Timothy 2:8-13, 2 Timothy 2:13. But God did forsake Jesus, proving that Jesus is not God and cannot be that God he was denied by.

4. Jesus was tempted by Satan in the wilderness. But God himself said he can never be tempted by evil, James 1:13.



"The LORD" is God himself in the Old Testament. Jesus is not God as we have proven. Therefore everyone should stop equating "the LORD" with "Jesus" as I have shown why. And the trinity doctrine is easily debunked here because if Jesus was God, he would be able to live up to the same standards as God but this is not the case.

He is not all knowing, is tempted by evil, is not as great in every way compared to his "father," God, and was able to be forsaken/denied which all of this would be impossible with God as I have shown and since he is perfect and divine; Isaiah 45:18, Deuteronomy 32:4, Psalm 92:15. This will make you question your beliefs about Jesus and God. Because think about it, God denying "God" doesn't sound logical in the first place, does it?

If I'm not mistaken (Christians?), Christians dont view Jesus as the creator.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
And a human only owns conscious life self presence, in the state of history Law of the stone.

O planet Earth stone, is stated to be God created. God the stone then also exhibits it is the Creator, by the release out of its owned CREATED stone body...its owned gases that evolved cooled/by spatial emptiness cold pressure as science relativity for the living experience on Planet Earth.

Law of the stone was a human science self identified natural law with natural orders that said….so never give God a name in science, and never, again change nor convert the life of all Nature living upon the body of our Planet.

Earth says the human self is our planet and we only own ONE planet.

As simple and as basic a self instruction is taught without argument.

Science however argues its human ability to do whatever it wants whenever it wants on group coercive control and manipulation....and it was always that status that we fought against for survival of life on Earth.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Many do believe Jesus Christ is the Creator in the name of God the Father.
The Creator, is the ownership of life saved but sacrificed.

For God is owner as the Created. Stone...and you cannot argue with real science quotes/laws.....stone.

God O the planet Earth is created.
God O the planet Earth is the Creator...stone released its volcanic gases, and in the spatial womb the Immaculate gases formed....the Immaculate gases without light.....sacrificed life originally.

Means that the light in the gases healed and was cooled/removed....what Immaculate meant NOT SACRIFICED.

Science relative Laws.

Then it said that the Sun, the evil spirit of Satan in HELL.....the rebelled God O body in the cosmos fallen angel history O to its scattered destruction (black hole) outcome...for space is cold...hot spatial black holes used to own mass in its history as hot mass that became cool and then blew up....leaving the evidence, its MARK.

The laws of God the stone.

Now science knows that it says MACHINE from God stone mass...and all science is relative just to PLANET EARTH...why you always argue relativity with natural humans, who are sick and tired of your abusive attacks.

God has always survived historically in science quotes...where MACHINE beginning came from...the stone. Machine however and human owner/builder never survived...but God did, the planet....your theory formula for the beginning of forcibly changing the Earth planet body for all science causes.

Then you have the human 3 holy bodies...2 human being parents who have sex and have a one baby. The 2 human being parents, originally were perfect, so was their baby.

Science then mutated the baby...reason as the not original 2 parents...who never did science as human memory states....grew up into an evil minded liar.

That baby to adult self already knew that the 2 parent bodies were deceased.

Which meant in RELATIVITY human self conscious advice....you bio life really do not exist...in actual science beginning to end BIO life quotes.

Which you totally ignored...for you wanted instant self removal.....not a future death.

What science the liar chose.

Today the 2 human beings are far from owning any bio state that is perfect. Human perfection is total 100 per cent health without any imperfections and 100 per cent beautiful without ever being sick.

So 2 mutated parent lives is already owned by all male baby adults today...then they die.

So they own mutated death already...another state you completely ignore....worse than death itself...as if death had been increased.

Why the Holy Church, the Healer medical sciences forbade any further changes to the body of God, the Earth stone....why the science concept was about OUR PLANET and our HUMAN LIFE....versus occult Destroyers....actually.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
<QUOTE="rational experiences, post: 6672508, member: 68025"]The Creator, is the ownership of life saved but sacrificed.

For God is owner as the Created. Stone...and you cannot argue with real science quotes/laws.....stone.

God O the planet Earth is created.
God O the planet Earth is the Creator...stone released its volcanic gases, and in the spatial womb the Immaculate gases formed....the Immaculate gases without light.....sacrificed life originally.

Means that the light in the gases healed and was cooled/removed....what Immaculate meant NOT SACRIFICED.

Science relative Laws.

Then it said that the Sun, the evil spirit of Satan in HELL.....the rebelled God O body in the cosmos fallen angel history O to its scattered destruction (black hole) outcome...for space is cold...hot spatial black holes used to own mass in its history as hot mass that became cool and then blew up....leaving the evidence, its MARK.

The laws of God the stone.

Now science knows that it says MACHINE from God stone mass...and all science is relative just to PLANET EARTH...why you always argue relativity with natural humans, who are sick and tired of your abusive attacks.

God has always survived historically in science quotes...where MACHINE beginning came from...the stone. Machine however and human owner/builder never survived...but God did, the planet....your theory formula for the beginning of forcibly changing the Earth planet body for all science causes.

Then you have the human 3 holy bodies...2 human being parents who have sex and have a one baby. The 2 human being parents, originally were perfect, so was their baby.

Science then mutated the baby...reason as the not original 2 parents...who never did science as human memory states....grew up into an evil minded liar.

That baby to adult self already knew that the 2 parent bodies were deceased.

Which meant in RELATIVITY human self conscious advice....you bio life really do not exist...in actual science beginning to end BIO life quotes.

Which you totally ignored...for you wanted instant self removal.....not a future death.

What science the liar chose.

Today the 2 human beings are far from owning any bio state that is perfect. Human perfection is total 100 per cent health without any imperfections and 100 per cent beautiful without ever being sick.

So 2 mutated parent lives is already owned by all male baby adults today...then they die.

So they own mutated death already...another state you completely ignore....worse than death itself...as if death had been increased.

Why the Holy Church, the Healer medical sciences forbade any further changes to the body of God, the Earth stone....why the science concept was about OUR PLANET and our HUMAN LIFE....versus occult Destroyers....actually.[/QUOTE]


Jesus as God is very consistent with the New Testament

Ephesians cites Psalm 68 which depicts the ark ascending Mt Zion and applies it to Jesus ascending. Clearly only fitting if Jesus is divine

But in the end Thomas Confession "my Lord and my (literally the) God
or "before Abraham was I AM" or the word was with God and was God only makes sense with a Trinity

delighting in the Trinity Michael Reeves Youtube - Yahoo Search Results Video Search Results
 

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URAVIP2ME

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First, let's establish this very fact to avoid confusion:
The LORD = "all caps" a reference for the Hebrew name of God himself in the Old Testament which is YHWH/Yahweh, using the tetragrammaton. The reason why the bible does not use this name is because of the observation of one of the 10 commandments that states, "You shall not misuse the name of Yahweh your God, for Yahweh will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name." Exodus 20:7, Deuteronomy 5:11. So the english bible translators used "the LORD" instead out of fear of being cursed by God himself for possibly misusing his own name improperly.
With that out of the way, let's establish the fact that Jesus could never be God. Jesus is not God, as he even alludes to, and the trinity is a deceptive lie; John 14:28, Mark 13:32, Mark 15:34, Matthew 4:1-11.
What we learn from these verses is that:
1. Jesus is not God because he is not all knowing, 1 John 3:20.
2. Jesus is not as great in every way shape and form compared to the father, God. This speaks for itself.
3. God can never forsake himself because he is God, period. Jesus cries out to God on the cross, "Why have you forsaken me?" If Jesus was God, he could never forsake himself, 2 Timothy 2:8-13, 2 Timothy 2:13. But God did forsake Jesus, proving that Jesus is not God and cannot be that God he was denied by.
4. Jesus was tempted by Satan/the evil one/the devil in the wilderness. But God himself said he can never be tempted by evil, James 1:13.
"The LORD" is God himself in the Old Testament. Jesus is not God as we have proven. Therefore everyone should stop equating "the LORD" with "Jesus" as I have shown why. And the trinity doctrine is easily debunked here because if Jesus was God, he would be able to live up to the same standards as God but this is not the case.
He is not all knowing, is tempted by evil, is not as great in every way compared to his "father," God, and was able to be forsaken/denied which all of this would be impossible with God as I have shown and since he is perfect and divine; Isaiah 45:18, Deuteronomy 32:4, Psalm 92:15. This will make you question your beliefs about Jesus and God. Because think about it, God denying "God" doesn't sound logical in the first place, does it?................

Yes, Psalms 110 (KJV) uses LORD in all Upper-Case letters where the Tetragrammaton appears, thus Lord Jesus is in some lower-case letters.
Psalms 90:2 says God is from everlasting ( No beginning )
However, pre-human heavenly Jesus was the beginning of the creation by God according to John at Revelation 3:14.
So, only God was 'before' the beginning, and Jesus was Not ' before ' the beginning as his God was.
Thus, Jesus was "IN" the beginning, but Not ' BEFORE ' the beginning.

P.S. before doubting Thomas said what he said at John 20:28 already at John 20:17 Jesus makes it perfectly clear that he would ascend to his Father... and his God.
This is in harmony with what John wrote at Revelation 3:12 that the resurrected ascended-to-heaven Jesus still thinks he has a God over him.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Yes, Psalms 110 (KJV) uses LORD in all Upper-Case letters where the Tetragrammaton appears, thus Lord Jesus is in some lower-case letters.
Psalms 90:2 says God is from everlasting ( No beginning )
However, pre-human heavenly Jesus was the beginning of the creation by God according to John at Revelation 3:14.
So, only God was 'before' the beginning, and Jesus was Not ' before ' the beginning as his God was.
Thus, Jesus was "IN" the beginning, but Not ' BEFORE ' the beginning.

God will not give his glory to another but Jesus is the Lord of Glory
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
God will not give his glory to another but Jesus is the Lord of Glory
.... and we can look forward to Jesus' coming 'glory time' as found at Matthew 25:31-33. His 'Day' is coming.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 the ' Day of Jesus ' is the Day of Judgement (Matt 25:32), the Day of Salvation for the great crowd of people of Revelation 7:9,14.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Yes, Psalms 110 (KJV) uses LORD in all Upper-Case letters where the Tetragrammaton appears, thus Lord Jesus is in some lower-case letters.
Psalms 90:2 says God is from everlasting ( No beginning )
However, pre-human heavenly Jesus was the beginning of the creation by God according to John at Revelation 3:14.
So, only God was 'before' the beginning, and Jesus was Not ' before ' the beginning as his God was.
Thus, Jesus was "IN" the beginning, but Not ' BEFORE ' the beginning.

P.S. before doubting Thomas said what he said at John 20:28 already at John 20:17 Jesus makes it perfectly clear that he would ascend to his Father... and his God.
This is in harmony with what John wrote at Revelation 3:12 that the resurrected ascended-to-heaven Jesus still thinks he has a God over him.

Since Thomas said "My Lord and the God [ho theos]" one would expect Jesus to correct Thomas if it was not true , rather Jesus blessed Thomas
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
<QUOTE="rational experiences, post: 6672508, member: 68025"]The Creator, is the ownership of life saved but sacrificed.

For God is owner as the Created. Stone...and you cannot argue with real science quotes/laws.....stone.

God O the planet Earth is created.
God O the planet Earth is the Creator...stone released its volcanic gases, and in the spatial womb the Immaculate gases formed....the Immaculate gases without light.....sacrificed life originally.

Means that the light in the gases healed and was cooled/removed....what Immaculate meant NOT SACRIFICED.

Science relative Laws.

Then it said that the Sun, the evil spirit of Satan in HELL.....the rebelled God O body in the cosmos fallen angel history O to its scattered destruction (black hole) outcome...for space is cold...hot spatial black holes used to own mass in its history as hot mass that became cool and then blew up....leaving the evidence, its MARK.

The laws of God the stone.

Now science knows that it says MACHINE from God stone mass...and all science is relative just to PLANET EARTH...why you always argue relativity with natural humans, who are sick and tired of your abusive attacks.

God has always survived historically in science quotes...where MACHINE beginning came from...the stone. Machine however and human owner/builder never survived...but God did, the planet....your theory formula for the beginning of forcibly changing the Earth planet body for all science causes.

Then you have the human 3 holy bodies...2 human being parents who have sex and have a one baby. The 2 human being parents, originally were perfect, so was their baby.

Science then mutated the baby...reason as the not original 2 parents...who never did science as human memory states....grew up into an evil minded liar.

That baby to adult self already knew that the 2 parent bodies were deceased.

Which meant in RELATIVITY human self conscious advice....you bio life really do not exist...in actual science beginning to end BIO life quotes.

Which you totally ignored...for you wanted instant self removal.....not a future death.

What science the liar chose.

Today the 2 human beings are far from owning any bio state that is perfect. Human perfection is total 100 per cent health without any imperfections and 100 per cent beautiful without ever being sick.

So 2 mutated parent lives is already owned by all male baby adults today...then they die.

So they own mutated death already...another state you completely ignore....worse than death itself...as if death had been increased.

Why the Holy Church, the Healer medical sciences forbade any further changes to the body of God, the Earth stone....why the science concept was about OUR PLANET and our HUMAN LIFE....versus occult Destroyers....actually.


Jesus as God is very consistent with the New Testament

Ephesians cites Psalm 68 which depicts the ark ascending Mt Zion and applies it to Jesus ascending. Clearly only fitting if Jesus is divine

But in the end Thomas Confession "my Lord and my (literally the) God
or "before Abraham was I AM" or the word was with God and was God only makes sense with a Trinity

delighting in the Trinity Michael Reeves Youtube - Yahoo Search Results Video Search Results[/QUOTE]

God in science is a relative described atmospheric movement of light, against radiation conversion fall out....the D value....just as explained.

God in original light movement, science quotes in the Earth gases is God O.....yet before God.

For you cannot talk about one concept without previously knowing and understanding a higher concept in SCIENCE......natural human awareness.

First statement O stone is surrounded by its own heavens...stone is in heavens says a science psyche.

However a non science psyche as a human says.....I am standing as a healthy and naturally supported life on God the stone...the real ONE theme. I am correct and you scientist are a liar.

Scientist said....God O the stone created owned God the heavenly gas spirits as the IMMACULATE.

One word, one meaning and one description ONLY....as one and original speaking/words meaning....before science change.

Change...the exact meaning owned by a human inventor...to force what I study to change so that I can own its change....what you lie about.

O in the natural light movement was G and O, held in the heavenly gases.

Are you scientist owner of the history of natural concepts?

No...but you put mind to think about it, the conditions you lie about...you never personally owned the Immaculate nor do you personally in science own natural light.

You own in science the equals answer to your science machine formula fallen burnt out re cooled gases.

Fact...day light illuminated increased the cold clear gases that were not burning.

EVIDENCE says Eve...even balances removed, of 12/12, and 12 is natural light and 12 is cold clear gases.....liar scientist.

You tried to coerce the public into believing that radiation fall out created life.

It attacked/sacrificed our life for we never began as a human with the Immaculate gas history....it was owned by the Creator O God Earth stone.

We live only in 12 natural light which evaluation says is G and O....held higher form.

You took higher form and split it...so that half was held/cooled unnaturally as a D value in the heavens which is not Immaculate.

And the other half D on the ground cooled to be O...meanwhile we lost ground water to the heavenly D value, and to the ground irradiated value.

We were harmed.

Gases burning is just gases burning light x mass is natural light then you increased natural light burning, and it still is natural light burning...with night time cold gases sacrificed. UFO gases/lights radiation fall out.

Exactly how it was explained so that you could no longer coerce the public claiming that science and pyramid temple owned natural....yet still to this day you do.

God was forced into existing by the Father Inventor of God....radiation fall out science.

God the One was our life owner/supporter in natural Immaculate light...the presence of sacrificed light origins...which is not Lucifer.

Luciferian lying was Satanic coercion....and introduced.
For the 4th-century anti-Arian sect called the Luciferians, see Lucifer of Cagliari.

William Blake's illustration of Lucifer as presented in John Milton's Paradise Lost
Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a destroyer, a guardian, light bringer or guiding spirit to darkness,[1] or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.[2]


Science changed the natural Immaculate light. Which God O the Creator already owned the form of, natural and light.

God owned it first.

Science tried to own it second and was irradiated attacked by illuminating the night time sky and sacrificing converting the bio life on Earth, just as it said.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
.... and we can look forward to Jesus' coming 'glory time' as found at Matthew 25:31-33. His 'Day' is coming.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 the ' Day of Jesus ' is the Day of Judgement (Matt 25:32), the Day of Salvation for the great crowd of people of Revelation 7:9,14.

ABCDE

Devil.

Descending....to be life sacrificed FIRST.

In God history was life sacrificed FIRST?

No, otherwise we would not even exist.

In God O natural theist history we were living FIRST as our self....which says the 3 and then notification of the 4.

AB CD.

BC O AD....relevant quotes Holy 3, and the 4th not Holy by conditions...to learn about being sacrificed.

To AS cend…..to descend exists first...for the sacrifice never existed first.

Science relativity I like to argue and always argue science is right he says.

No, science is wrong first, and right second.

First BC...second AD...recognition/teaching learning less of the son.

Learnt our science lesson NEVER change God.

Natural light was always natural light in the heavens.

pi O natural light. O gas burnt dot moves to side/rib _ falls into G spin cools in COLD GAS from BURNT GAS....to O....science attacks....splits into D and D.

D remains in natural light cooling, water evaporation O G O D back to O.

D falls to ground uses up our water that bio Nature was using....as it falls life gets burnt...for it falls first in origin onto the face of the stone, where no Nature existed...where it burnt first in science...not even noticed.

Therefore if you happen to be on the ground where the ARK lands....you get sacrificed just as stated. Like Stephen Hawking science cares less about the human condition why from subliminal mind contacts and evil metaphysical studies, they brought those studies into transmitted Earth ground human and animal life attacks.

Reason I know it true....we never got any UFO ark crop circle landing on my property….so it had to be machine science caused.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
View attachment 40186
*A Samarian YHWH/Yahweh from 325 B.C on a Drachm coin.*


First, let's establish this very fact to avoid confusion:

The LORD = "all caps" a reference for the Hebrew name of God himself in the Old Testament which is YHWH/Yahweh, using the tetragrammaton. The reason why the bible does not use this name is because of the observation of one of the 10 commandments that states, "You shall not misuse the name of Yahweh your God, for Yahweh will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name." Exodus 20:7, Deuteronomy 5:11. So the english bible translators used "the LORD" instead out of fear of being cursed by God himself for possibly misusing his own name improperly.


With that out of the way, let's establish the fact that Jesus could never be God. Jesus is not God, as he even alludes to, and the trinity is a deceptive lie; John 14:28, Mark 13:32, Mark 15:34, Matthew 4:1-11.

What we learn from these verses is that:

1. Jesus is not God because he is not all knowing, 1 John 3:20.

2. Jesus is not as great in every way shape and form compared to the father, God. This speaks for itself.

3. God can never forsake himself because he is God, period. Jesus cries out to God on the cross, "Why have you forsaken me?" If Jesus was God, he could never forsake himself, 2 Timothy 2:8-13, 2 Timothy 2:13. But God did forsake Jesus, proving that Jesus is not God and cannot be that God he was denied by.

4. Jesus was tempted by Satan/the evil one/the devil in the wilderness. But God himself said he can never be tempted by evil, James 1:13.



"The LORD" is God himself in the Old Testament. Jesus is not God as we have proven. Therefore everyone should stop equating "the LORD" with "Jesus" as I have shown why. And the trinity doctrine is easily debunked here because if Jesus was God, he would be able to live up to the same standards as God but this is not the case.

He is not all knowing, is tempted by evil, is not as great in every way compared to his "father," God, and was able to be forsaken/denied which all of this would be impossible with God as I have shown and because God is perfect and divine; Isaiah 45:18, Deuteronomy 32:4, Psalm 92:15. This will make you question your beliefs about Jesus and God. Because think about it, God denying "God" doesn't sound logical in the first place, does it?


Forsake* is also a synonym for deny:* forsake | Origin and meaning of forsake by Online Etymology Dictionary
Why do you make this negative OP about Christianity, but when people answer, you keep silent, except for bump now and then?

What is your agenda? Why do you not take part in your one thread?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Father spiritually in his NDE, death every day assisted me to understand my science brother.

He said if you are an honest human theist, you stand on Earth as a bio life, self created...your 2 parents, are not your life, but sperm and an ovary are.

Cells and a body given back to you by your holy human female Mother.

Holy life in real terms....100 years ago if humans stopped having sex, all life in human life would be deceased.

Animals by our side in the same atmospheric water/oxygen body live today by sex also.

Life says a scientist in a claim of I know what I am talking about, yet not fully explaining says no one is physical in reality.

Which means even though you get created you eventually die/destroyed.

Bio life...the consciousness lying to itself.

Creation is created and owns natural presence.

We own life in a constant natural 12 light atmosphere 12 dark clear night time sky.

Science illuminated mass gases so that they fall out...but in the process of fall out get cooled by water/oxygen that we use for life.

So a male standing on a planet as a theist looks out into the atmosphere and makes that quote.

Side by side in the exact equals natural light life is water/oxygen bio Nature...side by side.

Says Tree life......maybe might have been 100s to thousands of years of life before.

So we give an example of his false thinking.

Side by side on Earth in one natural life supporting atmosphere.

Tree about 400 years...all animals multi life some equal 100 years..human 100 also.

Not a balanced line _____________

Thinks upwards one way _____________ and thinks outwards on the ground one way ______________ his cross thinking +.

Says not life equal balanced with a tree.

So if a human owned a modern day theory about de materialization in the science machinery....he would give a fake quote about Tree of life and say it is equal to our 100 year life span.

But it owns 400 years of life.

So if he says....as a scientist...we actually are not here...for in 100 years time we actually own death...the information he states is bio purpose.

So in one moment tries to remove us all....as death owners, in full knowledge consciously, being Satanic Destroyer science logic on how to remove life...in science conscious statements about inferring DATA to bio logic.

Yet the TREE lives for 300 years longer than we do.

What less SON would you be taught...and what conditions of the lesson would be PREACHED?

I was sacrificed on the cross of WOOD...the life of a tree.

Actually as a logical answer to a lying occult Luciferian teaching....that claimed illuminated light was natural 12 light when it was added onto mass of light, with our water/oxygen life use mass gone/evaporated to hold natural light above us instead of combusting us all.

What they lied about as relative.
 
View attachment 40186
*A Samarian YHWH/Yahweh from 325 B.C on a Drachm coin.*


First, let's establish this very fact to avoid confusion:

The LORD = "all caps" a reference for the Hebrew name of God himself in the Old Testament which is YHWH/Yahweh, using the tetragrammaton. The reason why the bible does not use this name is because of the observation of one of the 10 commandments that states, "You shall not misuse the name of Yahweh your God, for Yahweh will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name." Exodus 20:7, Deuteronomy 5:11. So the english bible translators used "the LORD" instead out of fear of being cursed by God himself for possibly misusing his own name improperly.


With that out of the way, let's establish the fact that Jesus could never be God. Jesus is not God, as he even alludes to, and the trinity is a deceptive lie; John 14:28, Mark 13:32, Mark 15:34, Matthew 4:1-11.

What we learn from these verses is that:

1. Jesus is not God because he is not all knowing, 1 John 3:20.

2. Jesus is not as great in every way shape and form compared to the father, God. This speaks for itself.

3. God can never forsake himself because he is God, period. Jesus cries out to God on the cross, "Why have you forsaken me?" If Jesus was God, he could never forsake himself, 2 Timothy 2:8-13, 2 Timothy 2:13. But God did forsake Jesus, proving that Jesus is not God and cannot be that God he was denied by.

4. Jesus was tempted by Satan/the evil one/the devil in the wilderness. But God himself said he can never be tempted by evil, James 1:13.



"The LORD" is God himself in the Old Testament. Jesus is not God as we have proven. Therefore everyone should stop equating "the LORD" with "Jesus" as I have shown why. And the trinity doctrine is easily debunked here because if Jesus was God, he would be able to live up to the same standards as God but this is not the case.

He is not all knowing, is tempted by evil, is not as great in every way compared to his "father," God, and was able to be forsaken/denied which all of this would be impossible with God as I have shown and because God is perfect and divine; Isaiah 45:18, Deuteronomy 32:4, Psalm 92:15. This will make you question your beliefs about Jesus and God. Because think about it, God denying "God" doesn't sound logical in the first place, does it?


Forsake* is also a synonym for deny:* forsake | Origin and meaning of forsake by Online Etymology Dictionary

That coin looks like the iconography of Zeus with his birdy out.
 

epronovost

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I always find it weird when people are quoting the canonical scriptures to reject the idea of the trinity. It's the same people who established the canon in the first place who also rejected the idea of Jesus being a man, being a demi-god or a seperate entity and established the doctrine of the trinity. They did that in the same council too. You are basically trusting these people to have produce a reliable canon, but don't trust them to interpret it correctly even if those scriptures were written in their native language and you are reading through much older translations or, at the very best, reading in a second language that you can never dream to master to their level.
 
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URAVIP2ME

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Therefore if you happen to be on the ground where the ARK lands....you get sacrificed just as stated. Like Stephen Hawking science cares less about the human condition why from subliminal mind contacts and evil metaphysical studies, they brought those studies into transmitted Earth ground human and animal life attacks..........................

To me, the Ark has already landed, Noah's Ark that is.
Today we have a Spiritual Ark, the Christian congregation.
Early on Stephen Hawking prayed that before he died that God would reveal to him about the creation of the Universe.
We know that did Not happen, and Hawking even gave up on God.
However, God has Not given up on Hawking because of the Resurrection Hope.
There is the biblical hope that Hawking will have a future resurrection back to live life on Earth.
This Resurrection Day starts with Jesus' Millennium-Long Day of governing over Earth in righteousness.
Then, Hawking will be healthy as described in Isaiah 35th chapter and can continue to learn about God.
 

rational experiences

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To me, the Ark has already landed, Noah's Ark that is.
Today we have a Spiritual Ark, the Christian congregation.
Early on Stephen Hawking prayed that before he died that God would reveal to him about the creation of the Universe.
We know that did Not happen, and Hawking even gave up on God.
However, God has Not given up on Hawking because of the Resurrection Hope.
There is the biblical hope that Hawking will have a future resurrection back to live life on Earth.
This Resurrection Day starts with Jesus' Millennium-Long Day of governing over Earth in righteousness.
Then, Hawking will be healthy as described in Isaiah 35th chapter and can continue to learn about God.

The Trinity of our natural life is a Father and a Mother and a baby....historically, never is the self ever the parent. Still living today owning that scientific realization, no human was as a self ever their parent.

And their life as measured by a scientific applied human measure of one human looking at another human bio life and giving it a measure. As above so below and the breadth. Bread as a number TH measure.

Measuring is not a scientific formula....for scientists who want to argue.

The human stands within the measure O the atmospheric gas mass that surrounds them and the quote is that measure allows a life to life in a day, natural light 12 quotation.....of a holy measure...claiming and so the bio life owns it.

Not any science machine, in reality.

The Ark story says a male human was told by God O the stone Creator theme...for our planet is a Creator of its owned Immaculate formed gases that surround its body...landed and took aboard the spirit form of a calculated measure of all animal life and human life living.

Never did the Ark claim say and I took on the Tree/Garden Nature life...for that body historically unlike animals and human bio chemistry owned about 400 years of a life span...versus our 100.

The bread TH measure they lied about....you cannot compare bio life 100 year survival in radiation against a Tree life....why we got life sacrificed by irradiation fall out burning...for we are not a Tree. The wood teaching.

Hence x 2 boarding of the Ark, you then look into the clouds and witness the animal and human life that DNA boarded the irradiated life attack on the ground/Ark landed theme.....I copied God the stone, and then removed the presence of God the stone...fission reaction....actual.

And a male in science confessed that he did it. Then Satanists tried to blame God for doing it...knowing that male humans with machines did it. What a scientist is, in real life a liar.

So x 2 meant water off the ground owned by the bio Nature living in bio synthesis use of microbial energy got combusted...and given carbon signals in water instead.….as our owned water ground mass was evaporated.

How animal living and humans living got their images put in newly formed and newly gained CLOUD MASS...to contradict science burning our gases, that were cold and clear....as the liars they always were, and still are today.

Science tried to quote that the UFO ark radiation Sun mass landed on Earth and created us as a microbe. Which in science mentality as a statement from an owned living bio whole life today and body means that they meant to convert us into just existing as a microbe cell and not a human.
 
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