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The sudden death of Identity Politics in America

Cooky

Veteran Member
Has the left finally come to understand that the American middle class, being the largest class, is the real decider in this country? And that appeals to ethnicity didn't work well enough for achieving power?

What is the progressive method of thinking now under their next short-term, aimless gust?

...What will they tell us to believe, and rally around now?
 
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PureX

Veteran Member
It seems like something from the past now. Kamala Harris has dropped out of the race, and now, next weeks candidates' debate, in Los Angeles, will be comprised of all caucasions.

...So what has happened to identity politics? Is it dead for good? Have the winds of progressivism shifted?
I don't think this has anything to do with "identity politics". I think it has everything to do with money. Specifically, who has it, and who they'll give it to in support of their run for office. The people (corporate conglomerates) that have money to throw at political candidates will throw it first at candidates that preach the wonder and glory of the god-like rich who provide us all with everything we need to live, and who will promise to do whatever the god-like wealthy overlords want them to, when they're elected.

BUT, if that message isn't working, and it appears that the toady candidate cannot win, then they will give the money to a candidate that does not preach the worship of wealth, because they still want that candidate to be beholding to them, if they should win. Nearly always, the oligarchs give money to both sides, and give the most money to whatever side appears to be winning, even though they like the toadies, better. Because no matter who wins, they want the winner to be beholding to them for their win. Better to turn them into a corporate toady, later.

So as you watch candidates drop out, it has NOTHING to do with identity politics, or even with what they preach, really. And it has everything to do with whichever way the winds of the polling data blows, and who it appears has the better chance of winning at the moment. The money is going to go to those who appear to have a better chance of winning, which then forces the other candidate to drop out.
 
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Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I don't think this has anything to do with "identity politics". I think it has everything to do with money. Specifically, who has it, and who they'll give it to in support of their run for office.
But that doesn't fit OP's agenda! What's wrong with you??!
 

Shad

Veteran Member
It seems like something from the past now. Kamala Harris has dropped out of the race, and now, next weeks candidates' debate, in Los Angeles, will be comprised of all caucasions.

...So what has happened to identity politics?

It still exists. Now they just complain that Dems are the racists and sexists too. That is what Harris claimed. It is what I have read. Faced it people that embrace identity politics wont be happy until someone of the right race and sex is elected as the ideology is superficial. Merit means nothing to these people.

Is it dead for good?

Nope.

Have the winds of progressivism shifted?

Not really. People are already complaining about Sanders and Biden due to being white and male
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I don't think this has anything to do with "identity politics". I think it has everything to do with money. Specifically, who has it, and who they'll give it to in support of their run for office.

Yah Harris was the perfect candidate.... There was no reason her donations dropped to next to nothing.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Has the left finally come to understand that the American middle class, being the largest class, is the real decider in this country? And that appeals to ethnicity didn't work well enough for achieving power?

What is the progressive method of thinking now under their next short-term, aimless gust?

That's a Trump thing. Remember his problem with the judge who had a Hispanic heritage?
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
Has the left finally come to understand that the American middle class, being the largest class, is the real decider in this country? And that appeals to ethnicity didn't work well enough for achieving power?

What is the progressive method of thinking now under their next short-term, aimless gust?

...What will they tell us to believe, and rally around now?
America was founded by white, male, Anglo-Saxon Protestants who were well-meant and ahead of their time. Still, they created a system that works best for white, male, Anglo-Saxon Protestants but it has been trending toward equality. However, we can't expect any human progressive trend to be a straight upward line.

In recent years, we've elected Catholics and people with other than white skin. But, our progressives now are focused, as they should be, on the economic differences between rich and poor.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
But, our progressives now are focused, as they should be, on the economic differences between rich and poor.

It's proved to be a grave mistake to ignore the middle class. The largest class. Attempts have been made to divide the MC, using various methods, including identity politics.

...It seems the identity politics method is not working. They may have to invent something new.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
What I do not understand is why certain Democrats vilify Tulsi Gabbard for saying Hillary's policies were disastrous...
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
America was founded by white, male, Anglo-Saxon Protestants who were well-meant and ahead of their time. Still, they created a system that works best for white, male, Anglo-Saxon Protestants but it has been trending toward equality. However, we can't expect any human progressive trend to be a straight upward line.

In recent years, we've elected Catholics and people with other than white skin. But, our progressives now are focused, as they should be, on the economic differences between rich and poor.


How about this for a campaign slogan: "If it's good enough for Whitey..."
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Trump is playing identity politics to the max by attacking Hispanics and other minorities. He uses racist dog whistles to appeal to the racists in his base.

The future of the US is light brown as intermarriage continues to increase. Good!
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Trump is playing identity politics to the max by attacking Hispanics and other minorities. He uses racist dog whistles to appeal to the racists in his base.

The future of the US is light brown as intermarriage continues to increase. Good!

The American middle class is largely white and US born. Trump is the first Middle Class representative the White House has had in who knows how long.

...Maybe since Kennedy.
 
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