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The story of lazarus and the rich man timeframe

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Frank Goad, May 7, 2021.

  1. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Well-Known Member

    Dec 13, 2018
    occultism that has to do with christianity
    I think the story of lazarus and the rich man.Took place during the time of Judaism.Because the rich man calls abraham father.What do you think?:)
  2. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

    Nov 25, 2018
    Osmanli Nakshibedi Way, Sufism
    I think it is this story you speaking of?

    Luke 16:19–31, New International Version:

    19"There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

    22"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'

    25"But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'

    27"He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'

    29"Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'

    30"'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'

    31"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"

    To me it sounds like The rich man speaks from something similar to Hell in torment. And the beggar was brought to heaven with Abraham. So the speech between the rich man and Abraham seem to be on a spiritual level, and not during their physical lifetime. But i can be wong of course.
  3. Tzephanyahu

    Tzephanyahu Member

    Mar 12, 2021
    Hi Frank,

    I think the Lazarus of this story is the very same Lazarus that the Messiah raises later.

    In the parables the Messiah tells, He never made up names or used names of the patriarchs to illustrate a point. Therefore, it's highly likely this was a real event the Messiah was relaying.

    Abraham said to the rich man (interestingly not given the respect of a name) that his brothers wouldn't believe even if one rose from the dead. Indeed, Lazarus did arise and the majority of the "rich" Jews still didn't believe. In fact, the Pharisees were conspiring to have Lazarus assassinated because of his testimony reaching the lay folk.

    I hooe that gives you another angle to appreciate the story.

  4. RabbiO

    RabbiO הרב יונה בן זכריה

    Nov 26, 2011
    What is “the time of Judaism”?
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