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The satan is evil. But is he Absolute Evil?

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by questfortruth, Sep 29, 2022.

  1. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    The satan is the evilest thing today. If satan is the worst thing ever possible (even in the future), why did he not tempted Jesus Christ with ideas of Atheism, panspermia, change of sex, abortion, euthanasia, marihuana, and Darwin's Evolution?
    The fall. The endless fall. The satan is falling. If there is no hell, then there is no bottom of hell. Hence, the nightmare has no bottom.



    This has no end. One cannot hit the Absolute Bottom. That is why Atheists do not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. It is the unforgivable sin.

     
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    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    What is it that has no end?
     
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    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Atheists don't blaspheme because they have no believe in your god, blasphemy would be the same as blaspheming harry potter

    And evil?? Not according to the bible.

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    The family of Job was just one episode of satan's rampage.
     
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    I understood it was god who killed jobs family
     
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    What? Satan made a bet with god, then god went out and did all the horrific acts. If I bet you that you couldn't kick puppies more than 20ft, and then you went out and drop kicked a bunch of puppies, that would be your rampage and definitely not mine.

    All Satan ever did was refuse to do everything god said, ask questions, and give honest clarification. I don't think Satan even lies anywhere in the bible, whereas god lies on multiple occasions. I can't think of anything more absolutely evil than creating a torture chamber for infinite torture. That is infinite evil by any definition I could ever accept, and again that's god's doing.

    If anyone is absolutely evil in the biblical narrative, it seems like that's god. "I knowingly creating sentient beings, then intentionally created a state of affairs entailing infinite suffering where almost all of them would be tortured forever with no chance of redemption, growth, or parole, and the few beings who are spared will be 'perfected' so that they praise me for all eternity instead." I literally couldn't imagine a more evil creature if I tried.
     
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    The satan is outside the Bible too. Not every single action of satan is recorded in Bible. Some actions are not recorded in any book.
     
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    And you know this how?
     
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    Well, that's for you

    For me, Satan does not exist
     
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    The satan is not our fantasy, he is actually acting outside Bible. Hence, not all his crimes are in Bible. Harry Potter deeds are all inside the book, because there is no Harry Potter outside the book. But satan is outside any book.
     
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    The satan does not exist, because God has not created satan. God has created only existent things, like Holy Lucifer. Then he lost the right to exist. Make difference between "to exist", "to be present." For example, vampire/zombie is dead, but he is present.
     
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    Right... So you don't know the answer to your statement so waffle
     
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    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    Once again, I want to just remind people that Satan is something quite different in Judaism than he is in Christianity. In Judaism, angels have no free will, thus they never rebel. So Satan, who is an angel, never rebelled. Satan is God's employee. He has a job that is not enviable -- to accuse us and tempt us so that free will can exist. But hey, someone's gotta do that job. He can only do what God allows, so really he isn't the powerful near-deity that Christians make him out to be.
     
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