The Right to Bear Arms

[Baydwin]

Americans only to vote in the poll please!!!

I've put this in the debates section, just in case it becomes one.

I'm just after some statistics really, but of a more personal nature than you get from national surveys.

The fourth option is for all people to answer, not just gun owners. "Incident" could be anything except murder, so accidents, suicides, manslaughter in self-defence etc.

Thanks.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I don't believe you are a free man if you do not own guns.

 

[Storm]

I do not own a gun. However the only reason for this is that I live in government housing, and I'm not allowed to.

Ironic, isn't it, how easily government agencies get away with scrapping the Constitutional rights of those under their control....

 

[Baydwin]

I don't believe you are a free man if you do not own guns.

How so?

 

[The Voice of Reason]

I own several guns, but I haven't fired any of them in over 15 years.

I used to shoot competitively, but, like golf, I rarely even think about it any more.

 

[tumbleweed41]

I used to have hunting rifles. But sold them when I stopped hunting as I had no need for them.

 

[Reverend Rick]

How so?

Without a gun, my safety is at the mercy or skill of others.

 

[Baydwin]

Without a gun, my safety is at the mercy or skill of others.

How does that make you less free?

 

[dust1n]

Without a gun, my safety is at the mercy or skill of others.

All the time? Why does this make you not free? A lack of civil liberties is what makes you not free.

Of course, I agree that every citizen should own a gun; if not for simple rule of revolting at the first sign of tyranny (we are a many a signs due), including any weapon that their government owns.

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.Thomas Jefferson
3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)​

This is advice from a guy who charted how to operate it's government to make it work.

 

[Reverend Rick]

How does that make you less free?

My families basic right to life could be dependant on the actions or inaction's of others. Being able to defend your life is the most basic freedom.

In light of the fact that my government forced me to go to a foreign country and put an automatic rife in my hands at the age of 19, carrying a gun is very natural to me.

People always assume that the police will defend you. In many situations, by the time they get to a location, the damage is already done.

 

[Mikael]

ok, so I won´t poll...

But seriously, US-citicens (america is a continent, right?), guns=freedom? An embarressment to rational thought. It´s one of the reasons I would never want to go to the US.

 

[dust1n]

ok, so I won´t poll...

But seriously, US-citicens (america is a continent, right?), guns=freedom? An embarressment to rational thought. It´s one of the reasons I would never want to go to the US.

Like I told him; lack of freedom is a lack of civics education or sway, guns are just one way to acquire freedom if you don't have it.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is all that allows the other rights of Americans to exist.

 

[Baydwin]

My families basic right to life could be dependant on the actions or inaction's of others. Being able to defend your life is the most basic freedom.

So if you only have a knife to defend against a burglar armed with a gun you aren't free?

What if you have a handgun and suffer a home invasion by men armed with fully automatic machine guns? Who has the greatest freedom quotient?

 

[Baydwin]

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is all that allows the other rights of Americans to exist.

So, I'm not free?

 

[Mikael]

Well, here only hunters and sportspeople have firearms on special licence. Noone else. And we are no less free. We just have a lower risk of being shot (for any reason).

 

[enchanted_one1975]

So if you only have a knife to defend against a burglar armed with a gun you aren't free?

Free, but at a great disadvantage.

What if you have a handgun and suffer a home invasion by men armed with fully automatic machine guns? Who has the greatest freedom quotient?

Not a likely scenario. However, even if an intruder were better armed, they would still be playing on the homeowner's turf. The element of surprise could take the disadvantage of full auto weapons away.

So, I'm not free?

None of us is truly free. The real advantage of private firearm ownership is this: Because you can own a gun, you might own a gun. Just because some Americans may choose not to own a gun does not tell an intruder or government agency who does or doesn't own a gun and, if they do, what type of gun. It is this that creates the theory that my fight to keep and bear arms protects those that choose not to.

 

[Reverend Rick]

So, I'm not free?

Not by my standards. You see, I have the power to do something at any given time without delay. I imagine that power scares you a bit right?

Most people who are not free are fearful when they encounter a truly free person.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Well, here only hunters and sportspeople have firearms on special licence. Noone else. And we are no less free. We just have a lower risk of being shot (for any reason).

How do you figure you have less chance of being shot? As long as any firearm exists, one may be shot. Outlawing firearms takes forearms away from responsible citizens, thus making criminals the only ones that own them. Giving up the right to bear arms is what turns people into sheeple.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Like I told him; lack of freedom is a lack of civics education or sway, guns are just one way to acquire freedom if you don't have it.

Dust1n, you can't be free if you are dead. Defending your life is the very core of freedom.